So when you wrote that there is no such thing as a recovery run, did you actually mean that there are alternatives?
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does it?
Yes.
Why wouldn’t it?
Evidence?
Interesting - what evidence do you regard as valid?
And, what evidence do you have that damaged muscle continues to repair at the same rate resting as when it is being exercised?
Well constructed, peer reviewed, unbiased, generalised, valid and reliable academic research
Did you mean halts or changes the rate? Changing the question mid stream is not going to get an answer…
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I’m sorry that you interpreted my statement that way. Please forgive me! “Halts” means “slows” to me and that is my position.
This descended into grammar quickly didn’t it?
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Definitions are important, otherwise how can anyone understand what is being communicated?
Good luck with that…
I personally feel running doesn’t promote recovery due to it being load bearing, and particularly damaging to muscles. You can’t put less load or just spin. I suppose in a 55kg runner who is well trained then that may not be entirely true so probably my original statement isn’t 100% correct in that context but for me I would never set a recovery run, easy runs, yes but active recovery for a triathlete for me would always be spinning or swimming.
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Your athlete’s loss….
Why their loss?
Because they won’t learn to recover whilst running
I could use my N=1, I never recover when running, even easy 20minutes leaves my legs more damaged then before I went out. I can even swim hard and legs feel better, provided I haven’t done hard kick work. I suppose if I was running >40miles a week it would be better? Walking is good though
How do you learn to recover when running? Apart from up the mileage
I thought the idea of recovery runs was to increase blood flow to the muscles thus aid and speed up muscle repair and recovery.
It is which you can do with less damage to the muscles you are trying to repair, via a walk, swim or spin.
Unless I’m mistaken that study shows that active recovery (ACT) was the least effective method with a detrimental effect.
Yep. I was just posting what I found to add some evidence into the thread.
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That is interesting as that reads like it is active v passive immediately following a HM. Have I read that correctly? Is that what an active recovery timing that we are thinking?
ETA: In a lot of Ex. Phys. literature they do refer to active recovery as activity at low intensity inbetween efforts or immediately after your main effort. Rather than e.g. waking up the next day after a hard run/bik/tri, having tired, heavy feeling legs and going and doing a short easy effort and then they feel better. That is what I would call a recovery run/bike/swim/gym.
I’m not sure which thread it was on, but someone linked to a article regarding short (10 min) activity (I think skipping was mentioned) together with gelatine consumption for recovery (specifically for tendons and ligaments). I’m giving it a go to see whether I can get my ankle back into service again, will see the results soon, but generally I have been of the view that load-bearing exercises (running, skipping, etc) in moderation can certainly aid recovery.