The usual standard is more this ish …
Apart from Leah Scottish tt god and spooner looks good too.
Looks pretty amazing to me. Did you DIY this position or did someone fit you?
Interesting recent slowtwitch article about the pro men bike positions at Kona:
Says common themes of last few years seem like longer tri bars, tri bars angled up, higher platforms for Tri bars, more shrug, some shoving stuff down the front of trisuit. Mid & rear of bike / other geometry not changed much
To be clear, is this for tri or tt? What distance? As obvs longer will need more comfort factored in.
It does look good to me, but I’m not one of the ones with a good eye for this. Sure they’ll be along later.
I was going to post this as well
I used to think about having a different position for varying distances but I have realised for me that my 10mile TT position can be carried over 50’s and 100’s as it is about being comfortable on the bike full stop.
From what I can gather and goes against the Slowtwitch trend of Retuland other fitting systems, is the fact that the pros are going to the wind tunnel to get their positions sorted rather than depend on a fitter to do the job for them.
Hazarding a guess that a fitter has done the initial setup and the wind tunnel is the “marginal gains”. I somehow doubt they’re going straight to a wind tunnel from a brand new bike. There’s a lot of pre-fit assessment a fitter does in assessing flexibility etc.
Pretty much for both. Training rides from 30 to 100km, amateur TTs of around 30 km and for duathlons, like the Zofingen Powerman (150km bike). I don’t swim unfortunately
Comfort is good as it is. I guess I’ll have to try less reach and vertical upper arm to see if it’s better or worse. The fit is pure DIY and mainly by feel, directly on the bike rather than analysis on a turbo trainer.
And don’t bash yourselves, I’ve already seen many very good positions in this thread, and very experienced fitters!
I don’t know if it’s an optical illusion due to the curved seat tube and vertical seat post, but you look further behind the bottom bracket than I would normally expect on a TT bike. (Does anyone know if the Giant has a comparatively slack seat angle?)
You could achieve a similar effect to reducing the reach by moving the saddle forwards (if you have options on the seatpost or space on the rails). You’d probably need to raise it a touch at the same time but that would bring your upper arms nearer to vertical helping to support your weight a bit more with your skeleton rather then muscles.
That absolutely looks like a solid position. I know these things can be counter intuitive, but that looks like a great aero position. Any head on pictures?
Typical trafleet then! IMCH beckons.
Position looks solid, why are you looking to change? Comfort, speed, improved run off?
The angled up arms helps with the tuck and hides your head behind your arms, can be quite uncomfortable to get used to. But it could make your elbow bend 90deg without changing reach.
Ganna has UCI rules to worry about, but is probably quite well dialed in.
I’ve set the saddle at -5cm behind the BB and extensions at +80cm in font of BB line. It seems normal for me but it’s already at the maximum of the UCI limit and I’m “only” 178cm. Not that I care too much about UCI rules but I don’t want to be too far from the values just in case I need to comply for 1-2 events.
All the times I went forward with the saddle, I lost a bit of power and felt more burning in my quads. Maybe I didn’t go high enough to compensate.
I’m essentially looking for more speed first, and I guess the head is the main point of improvement.
Ganna has that perfect flat head-back transition that I aim for but it’s on a velodrome/closed roads. I don’t want to sacrifice visibility too much either but I know that I can’t really get both at the same time…
All the head / hand positions needs testing, there’s no simple change, as different people get different results.
Possibly you can get everything lower (front and rear) but that does close the hip angle which people say doesn’t help the run - it almost certainly loses power.
Where abouts? I am in Zug
It looks like a very nice position, however, here are some observations. I have been slowly adapting my position this season, I am not able to generate as much power, however, I am going quicker with less Watts. Now that it’s off season, I would bring the bars back and up, I would also look at moving saddle forward. Your foot is in a pretty terrible position, would be much better to drop the heel
If you are ever in Zug area, we can do a flat TT around the Zugersee, its 38km and sometimes get lucky with the traffic lights.
Ah Zug is the best of both worlds ! City and mountains, flat and hilly terrain.
I am currently near Fribourg but for sure I’ll try to come in your area some day in the future for flat rides around the lake(s).
Position looks pretty aero to eyeball. There may be better helmets and/or you’re not turtling in that photo to smooth the transition to your back better.
Key bit is, is it comfortable?
There’s quite a lot of bend in your lower back and a different saddle may help you rotate round and relieve that pressure. TdF riders often ride like that but they don’t have to run after.
Saddle looks a bit low to me, in the top picture your far leg is pretty much at the furthest point from the saddle and there’s still a significant bend in the knee. This would open the angle of your nearest leg up a bit in the same pic.
Front looks OK as best I can tell, other then tucking your head in/turtling.