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It would be the same here though, he’d be 'New’man to 99% of people. But you’d expect commentators to get people’s names right though. Lange was called ‘Lang’ the first year or two, then even Welch started saying ‘Langer’.

OT but I remember when people tried to start calling Alex Creville by the proper pronunciation for the 500GP broadcasts. It didn’t go down well but they were right, it was ‘Crivi-YAAY’ of course.

I used to be just as bad with ‘Porsh’ cars :man_facepalming:

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I say Porsch here. Saves sounding pretentious :sweat_smile:

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I remember watching an ITU race a few years back when they said Gwen Jorgensen had “Americanised” her name so would officially be Jorgensen as opposed to Yorgensen.
I imagine the decision must have gone something like “These f*cktards will never get it, I give up”

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As long as they ditch Greg Welch and Dede next year, I’ll be happy. I think Rinny would do a good job and I’ve seen a broadcast with Michellie Jones on the ground and I thought she was good as well.

Lieto didn’t annoy me as much as Dede did, she seems incapable of not interrupting people. Greg Welch was in the company of IM royalty and just spoke over the top of them.

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Ruben Xaus pronunciation was the best one I can remember. They used to say it ‘Zowse’ for years which I thought sounded pretty cool but turns out it’s ‘Chowse’.

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So Matt Lieto wasn’t super, super annoying then?

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That looks like the Basque pronunciation of x. My surname is Basque but spelt the Castillian way so it is phonetically the same as Basque but with ‘ch’ replacing the original ‘tx’. Don’t get me started on WHU new player Pa-ke-TAR as his name seems to be :hear_no_evil:.

on the Norwegian lactate thing. From listening to Olav Aleksander Bu talking it seems they do a fair bit of sweet spot/sub-LT2 work. The main difference between what they do and what is generally sweet spot is the LT2 is in genrally below FTP or 10km run pace and therefore their sweet spot levels are lower than if they used the model of calculating threshold via FTP or 10km run pace. Bu saying this allows them to spend a lot more time there than if they used 88% of FTP as their starting point. If that makes sense. They obviously do a tonne of easy work too as is plain to see on strava.

On the race an speculating who goes where, I think a fit Alistair is at the pointy for a lot of it and see no reason why he couldn’t have won. Not saying it is nailed on of course, just I think he is good enough to. Hopefully we’ll see next year.

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Well yes but in the context of ‘how annoying’, not as much as Dede for me and I just expected more of Greg Welch. I’m not even sure how he got such a cosy gig with IM, he won it once.

Pete Jacobs would be just as qualified and more entertaining, he could talk about diet! :boom: :smile:

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Lovato ‘only’ came 6th iirc. But he is actually more amusing and self effacing than Welch.

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But without Welch and Dede who will provide the advice like:

  • making sure you get the blood back into your legs as you get out of the water
  • that cadence is too fast and will hurt
  • they shouldn’t be cycling with their toes pointing so far down
  • that’s great chin position on the run

That’s practically a triathlon coaching course right there.

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Paul Groves is the best commentator for getting the names spot on. A very accomplished multi lingual host and a loss to officials team when he retired

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But you have to love Rob Hatch and Italian names; talk about over egging it!

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Hatch’s Spanish pronunciation is really good, he even goes with regional variations where some sounds are quite different to what you might expect.

Rob Hatch is a total bore off. Yes he gets the pronunciation right but then he really over eggs the regional dialect and reckons it’s a ‘mark of respect’.

Interestingly, I’ve never heard him bung on an Irish, Aussie, Scottish or Kiwi accent, clearly he doesn’t respect those regions!

I see a lot of comments in YT clips about how a commentator is getting the pronunciation wrong and they are always directed at Anglo speakers and always being made by Euro folks but I never hear a peep about how a European commentator mangles an Anglo name.

One smart ass French guy on a camp kept calling me ‘Jan’ because 'that’s what my name would be in ‘his country’. He was called Jean, so I kept calling him ‘John’ in front of his friends. Lo and behold, he learned how to pronounce Ian correctly. :smile:

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God knows , bloody Portuguese, but isnt it “pack et ah”

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Lets not get into Argies :rofl:

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Maybe. Although in this instance it could be a way to get an excuse in early for why he doesn’t race again fir the next couple of years.

I think it would be a mistake, as he’s clearly a better LD triathlete*, but both Norwegians have said they return Full time to short course next year in the run up to Paris. Even as winner, does Gustav still technically have to validate his Kona slot next year by doing another Ironman between now and then? If so, I can’t see him doing that if he truly is focused on trying to achieve something at short course. Blu even less so as defending Olympic champion, and having to need to actually qualify at an IM, not just finish.

*this might actually be the reason why he does go back to short course. He’s basically won everything at Long Distance almost by accident. They’ve trained the last year or two for it, but they’ve still been racing short course too. I can see a point of view where Gustav goes in his own mind “I’m beating all these guys who spend their entire year focusing solely on that event, and it’s just a semi-focus for me. Trying to get an Olympic medal is actually more of a challenge and motivation to me right now”

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Moved to language thread

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I mentioned Paul in the Pro thread as he was doing the local commentary at Cagliari - much better than the TriathlonLIve commentators. I know him well from the TO circuit

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