PEDs

Essentially they’re putting themselves forward as guinea pigs with no long term studies on them, although if it reduces their risk of diabetes, strokes etc I can see why they’d try it and health authorities would prescribe it.

But some are probably the same people that turned down Covid jabs as they hadn’t been tested and were risky :roll_eyes:

No surprise given the obesity epidemic in America and power of pharma.

Sadly most aren’t interested in lifestyle changes as it involves exercise and diet changes.

As I’ve ranted before , a lot of people can’t even be arsed to walk across the car park to get their maccies or 600 calorie cup of coffee.

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But isn’t there also a large number of people taking this stuff for cosmetic reasons when they really haven’t got a problem and just want to get skinnier?
:man_shrugging:

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I’m sure that recently I read/heard that Weight Watchers was folding or dramatically changing direction because of the impact of these weight loss products.

Big societal ripples are being felt.

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Exactly that. Lifestyle change hard, drug easy.

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From a US based KPMG report:

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available over the counter?

asking for a friend…

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You can get anything on the internet!

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Or reducing/making the weight for sports performance.

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GLP agonists have been in use since ~2005. So probably started going through trials in the 90s. Was well known they had a “side effect” of weightloss. yes not true side effects given their use in diabetes, but they were developed as improving insulin release and inhibiting glucagon so your body produces less of its own sugars.

Just took a while (and some brand tweaking) for big pharma to realise and get approval to market them purely as weightloss agents rather than diabetes medications.

As hammerer suggests they also delay gastric emptying so food stays in stomach for longer, so you feel more full, but that’s not their sole mechanism.

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MArk Lewis’s youtube is >>

he admits he lied about his height, only by 1cm, to make him obese, then took a photo from a very unflattering angle with him crouching and making himself look a bit larger than he was. Its not cheap from these online private “clinics” though

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Thanks for the clarification :+1: so is the inference they’ve been prescribed for other things like diabetes for a while and side affects are understood? The obvious one being weight loss?

The list of side effects on the GF’s meds are long, luckily most don’t obviously affect her so far and are certainly offset by the improvement in life than with the illness uncontrolled.

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:slight_smile:
have you scientifically tested this theory for yourself?

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Mostly bikes, trainers (pairs :joy:) and holidays :grin:

Wot else would I want :man_shrugging:t2::joy:

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i shudder to think mate…

:slight_smile:

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To some degree. But then again proportionally there won’t have been that many women using semaglutide/similar drugs for type 2 diabetes and also on contraceptives prior to the last 2 years.
So it’s certainly very possible there may be some rare side effects that haven’t been obvious with the initial low numbers compared to now. But you’d obviously hope there isn’t major things we don’t know about.
Pancreatitis seems to be main one I see, along with a long of vomiting people worried they have pancreatitis after reading that on the side effects.

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Only saw the YT thumbnail on the Telly; but someone’s wife has had some work done…

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From a comment I’ve seen in FB, it seems that WT are doing doping control on age groupers racing in Pontevedra

““Absolutely thrilled, makes all the training worthwhile”, he told Age Group News from doping control…”

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