Bit of an imposter here and I’m unlikely to go sub 3 anytime soon (if ever now ), but I’m wondering if 3:15 might be doable on minimal training for me in about 8 weeks!
At the moment I can’t see me getting to Boston this year unfortunately, and unlike Ironman I’m not hearing any noises about refunds etc. for international runners, and I’ll also be outside of the qualifying window for 2022.
But…
The QT for 2022 ends in November and for M50 it’s 3:25, although this year with reduced slots it was ~3:17, if there’s more slots next year it could go to nearer 3:20.
Dorney marathon is 3rd Oct, flat and fairly cheap. It looks boring but at 4 laps it will be easy to drop out if I’m in pain or miles off schedule. It’s about 46 minute 10K pace, I ran a 40:30 on Saturday and although it was 10K pace with a few longer bike rides or some run\walks I’m wondering if I can get to 3 laps and hang on?
I know marathon’s can really bite you on the arse, but setting off at 3:15 pace which is comfortable is different to setting off at what you can do on a very good day. It then just comes down to endurance and injuries.
I could look for something later in October but a longer build-up would probably aggravate the injury if I try doing 20 milers.
Might see how the coming weeks go with the various massages etc. I’ve got booked in.
It’s hard to even plan for Boston atm with the travel situation, and in April I’d be able to do the 70.3 in Texas I’ve also got rolled over.
I’m in for VLM again this year. I was looking for a 20M race over the next few weeks to replicate previous build-ups. All my local ones seem to be cancelled, so looking further afield.
Dorney looks about the closest and right time frame (possibly a bit close).
Pretty sure I can handle the lap format, but curious if anyone else has done a race round there? Is it exposed? What’s the surface like?
I did a half there a few years ago. It’s a big open rowing lake, so yep wind can really whip up. And it is soulless. But it is what it is. Flat, fast and decent surface.
Thought i’d boot up Runalyse, see what it had to say.
It currently tells me that i’m in 28% marathon shape. I’m hitting 39% of my expected mileage (from their algorithms) and 5% of my expected long runs in order to work towards a predicted 3:20 which is based on my current vo2 max according to their system. My current marathon shape of 28% however results in a prediction of 4:25!
I mentioned that my buddy may need a new training partner
(though it doesn’t take into account any cross training at all)
I’ve just had a go with that tool, as I’m feeling miserable that my calf is no better after running yesterday… Ran 10km fine at lunch went to football in the evening and I could feel it in the warm up, yes I played on it and it felt like it was cramping. Do I literally do nothing for a week and hope it clears up or cycle 40km each or every other day to keep things moving?
Scroll down a bit, what is rating your current chances and actual prediction?
It’s way off, as wants you to do a 32km weekly run and doesn’t count cycling. But it’s fun to look at.
Conflicting statemen but, depending on what the injury is, i’d 100% be cycling on it. As long as the cycling doesn’t cause any pain/further damage, then the increased blood flow is only going to help. It’ll also slow the drop in your aerobic endurance.
But that is basically after only 4 weeks of training.
Cycling doesn’t cause any issues. The problem is, its really hard to gauge how long to leave it before I can throw myself back at it as it doesn’t seem to flare up much while I’m running but after.
I would go the opposite, back in the day when I was a triathlete so lots of ‘exercise’, less running specific I ran 1:26 prior to Frankfurt where I bombed to a miserable 3:14, the qualifying for NY use to be 1:23HM/3:00M that seems about right to me,
But of course it all depends on the person, some are better at going longer, some shorter. Moving on to where I have ended up I am better at gong longer, so clearly I needed more ‘speed’ hence I failed with a 1:26
Does anybody have any good examples of track sessions for mara training then? It’s been a while since i’ve played about in this sphere!
@YKK - you’re always on top of your speedwork despite running crazy long (and fast) distances @stenard - your coach normally has some pretty good stuff.
I think i’d like to (try to) post a decent 5km time this summer. Just to (hopefully) remind my mind and body that i can still do it. And by that i mean i want a sub 17 again. So i’ll continue for a few weeks to do some speed oriented track work once a week if i can. I’ll then add in some sub 3 pace medium runs, which should’t in theory be too difficult. Then i’ll focus a bit more specifically in late Sept if i can hit that 5km goal.
), but I’m wondering if 3:15 might be doable on minimal training for me in about 8 weeks!
Ran 10km fine at lunch went to football in the evening and I could feel it in the warm up, yes I played on it and it felt like it was cramping. Do I literally do nothing for a week and hope it clears up or cycle 40km each or every other day to keep things moving?
with a predicted outcome of 3:22.
