You sure your numbers are correct?
Or is my understanding wrong?
Max TSS in an hour is 100.
An hour easy bike should be 50.
An hour easy run should be 50.
S&C should be negligible TSS.
Your HR isn’t elevated that much above resting when doing S&C (unless you’re doing rowing as S&C? I’m which case I’d pack that in and go swimming instead)
Matt this morning: now, where’s that cleaners number?
An hour S&C, my HR is around 110, so TP gives me 30-35 TSS approx. Maybe I should have said an hour easy bike, Hour easy run and hour easy swim for 150 (I typically get a TSS around 65 for swim training)
100 is 1 hour at FTP, so 150 on the bike is probably 1h45m in a Zwift race, or 30km fast run
I should be cleaning now rather than chatting on TT
And I have to wash the bedding and do some shopping.
The weather is fantastic, so somehow I think I will fit in an easy run
Run to the shops. I’m usually in full Ironman™ gear in the supermarket, mask on, dripping sweat everywhere.
Including the $20 Ironman™ mask?
Unless you use traningpeaks definition of the above where running is 10% more just because.
Really? I thought it was the other way around.
Go for a pootle on your bike - tonnes of TTS.
Do a solid, off road hilly run with a low average pace - get bugger all!
OT but how does your residency work Matt, does a new employer have to sponsor you?
Oh there is that too, there’s an entirely different problem with bike TSS, but yes 1 hour at FTP running gets you more than 1 hour cycling at FTP.
The problem you’re talking about is that the TSS measured by trainingpeaks include the TSS you would’ve sitting on the sofa, which is a lot more significant when pootleing on the bike, because for more of the minutes are exactly the same as sitting on the sofa or walking to the fridge intensity which really shouldn’t be counted.
(HR based training load with a “0” range at the bottom end is the best mitigation for this, as is of course tracking sport specific and not overall)
Or only paying attention when it goes up and makes you feel good, but ignore it when it’s going down and make excuses to protect your ego.
Works for me.
Haha
Which is what I meant when I said the TSS from S&C is insignificant.
Like me walking to the gym is 12TSS. Back is 12TSS. Then walking the dog is 24TSS.
So that’s 48TSS for doing naff all.
We then do another 48-60TSS “walk” in the evening.
I recorded them in January, but then went back and deleted them all.
Utter nonsense.
Do you still do your thing of leaving your TP FTP as 325 for the entire year?
Think Matt means a 3hr day of bike run and gym for a total of 150, which seems reasonable.
Yes this seems nonsense and high numbers for what is presumably a short walk? Given 12TSS ~ 2.5-3km run for us.
Would power negate this? As I presume all the time at 0w = 0TSS?
I’ve said before that Swim TSS is meaningless, or at least is for me, as looking at pace zones post-session they don’t remotely accurately reflect what I actually did, and the auto-allocation of pace zones seems completely off too.
Not remotely, your assumption is wrong. This is another part of the training peaks algorithm - record a session 200w for 1 hour, but leave the garmin running whilst you’re in the shower, compare the result of that with the same thing with the shower removed. You’d think they were the same right, after all the effort is surely the same? But no the TSS from the “shower” version is higher.
Time is simply counted, and more time at 0 watts doesn’t reduce NP enough to make up for the extra time being counted. It applies to the middle of the ride too, but of course it is relevant there, if you’re doing 30s on 30s off, you can’t pretend it’s the same as continuous steady!
It leads to lots of shitty arguments in the training peaks people about when you should pause the garmin on a ride - how long a cafe stop / puncture etc. makes it necessary.
No, I let FTP update throughout the year. However, I did delete my old FTP at the start of the year, as it didn’t make sense to me to carry my old FTP from when I was at peak fitness, its been building up nicely since then. When I stop Zwifting, I guess late April, early May, I will delete my FTP and do a full on outdoor FTP test to determine my outdoor FTP. For my outdoor FTP I have 2 options, one is a climb up Zugerber, 7km, 500m, and my best time is 20m40s, I am hoping to get below 20mins, but it is perfect, as its not got any flat section. The other test would be a 1 hour time trial, but find that power in aero position on TT bike is typically 10% down on climbing on road bike
FTP should not be set going uphill.
Doing an FTP test for an hour on your TT bike is the most appropriate option here 
Hey Matt, here’s a little joke for you…
Was ist der Unterschied zwischen einem Schweizer und einem Ausländer? – Den Ausländer versteht man, wenn er Deutsch spricht! 
Agree, it would be pretty easy to create a TSS of 50+ just by recording normal day to day stuff. Completely pointless, but would show nice big numbers
If I do a really easy bike, my HrTSS is much bigger than TSS based on power. I only use HrTSS if I forget to have an HRM
Is the answer: VW emissions? 