Great swimming guys! And there was me feeling very excited to have hit a 7:52 today for a straight 400m for a solid new PB - will get back in my box (but keep stealing tidbits from your exchanges, they help slowpokes like me too).
And he’s concerned about sharks
first thing I saw in that pic @explorerJC just posted
https://results.kentswimming.org/2023D/RX6H1.HTM
Note 15yr old girls 3rd and 5th (ages same as tri, turn 15 before Dec 31st so 14 currently)
But check out 12yr olds and they are likely only swimming 4 sessions a week. (5 at a push)
makes you feel crap doesnt it but shows what is possible. I guarantee that most faults are caused by lack of shoulder and ankle mobility!
I’m long legged and suffered from sinky legs/drag in the pool, I think with one leg the drag is less & it’s easier to have my foot at the surface than before. I pretty quickly matched my old pool times with one leg & don’t notice any rotation or balance issues. My pool times didn’t transfer to OW last year though and my hypothesis is that I didn’t suffer for sinky legs prior with the wetsuit & I just didn’t have the same overall fitness post accident to compete with pre accident times & maybe more wetsuit is just faster.
I’ve put a fair bit of work in at the pool and I’m hoping I’m rewarded with some OW PB’s in a few months, my one legged kicking is probably better now than the 2 legged kick I had before too.
The target is to be on the toes of the 10:30/750m OW swimmers in my CAT, I did a pool solo 750TT with wetsuit @Lanza in 11:15 so not so far away.
awesome, hope you find the right swimmer to draft in the race, 10m30 is a cracking time & seems in reach
A significant difference in these races is the small field, maybe 10 in the CAT so you have eyes on the pray right from the off.
it’s insane
Was thinking about this watching Lionel Sanders in the Montreal arena games at the weekend. He was swimming 2m30 for 200m and looked pretty good… until the camera panned out and showed the young ITU guys swimming 2m00 . They looked like a different species!
they arent doing anything special, just consistently doing ~6hrs a week (4 * 90mins) but most still have have glaring faults to overcome but can due to young peoples mobility!. Sometimes I think many adult triathletes (and coaches) really overthink and confuse the situation also. Thy will swim 3 times a week usually for only an hour, doing all these weird and wonderful things like waggling arms in the air but of that hour only about 20minutes will be swimming full stoke in the main set with purpose. Also simply spend 15minutes an evening on mobility work whilst watching TV and enjoy the improvements.
Had a little chuckle to the wording of that
have you got specific races in mind @Doka ? sorry if you have said somewhere else
looking forward to tracking
Yep…had this conversation on a CPD webinar last night…
But i don’t think it’s just how often swimmers swim…i think that if you strip the average AGers swim back to basics and work on body position, balance, streamlining and get that right…then throw in rotation, breathing and kick…their swimming will improve dramatically and just about any catch will do…
That said, once the platform is sorted, there’s plenty of time to work on the catch…
when you watch the fast kids, you see glaring errors with a lot of the stroke, but body position is 99% good in the better swimmers. Take the 11 year olds swimming sub 20 for 1500, most will have been swimming a few years at most (9 is typical entry to a squad) and they would be swimming twice at that age so in theory an AG adult triathlete should be as good if it was just about time swimming, its what is done in that time that matters most.
Finding a time when you can have a quality session is nightmare ATM. In the LCC area, we used to have longer sessions pre-covid. This meant as the session went on the pool emptied a bit meaning you can get on with swimming. With a lot of sessions only being an hour now, a lot of the people stay for the entire session so you are having long rests to enable you to swim at the speed you want to or doing a some breaststroke every 50m in the hope the person will let you past at the wall.
ETA: pre-covid there were quite a few 90-120 min sessions across the week and pools that have gone.
Really need to update the thread, had a blade on trial that’s been returned but never got a good fitting socket to use with the blade. My blade is on order and I’m booked in for a check socket (to test the fit) providing blade arrives on 9th March. As soon as I can run the 5km distance I’ll be entering races
Even pacing. 1:33/34s from 400-1500. No improvement in last 300 - spent, or didn’t get your head back into it to go the limit?
I think that’s when the soundtrack changed from Poker Face to Paparazzi which is a little down tempo.
What’s the answer - longer sessions? Although swimming nearly every day, the most I have been doing is 2000m, usually 1500m.
Literally no idea how you did 100*100m at Christmas. That’s a weeks worth here and at least a months worth back home!
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I agree with your implication that if one is only doing an hour or two a week swimming one should be doing swimming not drill, and certainly not kick. Stroke counting is essential, certainly for a quarter of it (or more ? ) but I don’t really count that as drill anyway.
Concentrate on your full stroke !
If one is doing 6 hrs plus a week then that’d be different