Swimming for Hammers and Spoons

Yes…i am an expert…

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I went from 3:59 to 3:56 for 400fc purely from improving kick, got my 100m kick down by about 10-15s over course of 6-9 months after moving clubs to one that had it as an emphasis. Was quite a low hanging fruit in hindsight for that level of improvement.

Yes, I appreciate that’s not true long distance freestyle or triathlon swimming.

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But you are probably the best swimmer here. You or TC.

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But bearing in mind I took up swimming long before the age of 25, it’s no mean feat

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Sheff giving JC advice is really entertaining. I think you need more tips about long distance swimming JC, because you didn’t just coach someone to a world record recently or anything :laughing:
Growing up in competitive swimming, I do understand there’s a difference between channel and pool, but anyway…still tickles my sense of humour

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nope…if it is not is his repertoire then it isn’t of value…

only through default…

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always willing to learn @Annas :slight_smile:

he could have been faster…i might pass on my latest recruits as they would obviously do better elsewhere…;0

mine too…

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This shows you really either do not understand, have made no effort to understand or are so fragile that you cannot accept that this is a ridiculous argument.

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Socrates would be proud :blush:

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How do you know your 400 time might not have come down anyway ?

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Having just seen the sub 4 minute 400 time then that is a different kettle of fish anyway. 4 minute 400 free swimmer would be much more likely to need a big kick. But I wouldn’t have thought there are many sub 4min 400 freestylers on here !

Don’t know why you are saying that, all I am really saying is if it works for you then keep going with it. How could anyone be offended by that statement ?

How much training have they had to do to “have it in their kit bag” ?
I’d have thought to really improve ones kick one would have to do hours a week, say one hour minimum. Now if one is doing 10 hours a week in the pool that might be worthwhile, certainly for someone who does some sprinting. But most people are only doing a few hours a week, and that then means kick training is taking up a lot of their pool time, maybe up to a third, which particularly for a distance swimmer it seems to me they’d be better off using that pool time just swimming.

Incidentally I just got a weird error message saying I could not put on any more posts on my first day as a user. There appears ot be a bug in your software.

My last point exactly.

Lets try this a different way. Have a re-read and show me where anyone suggests “putting a big propulsive kick” in a triathlon swim. Because so far you’re the only one to suggest that.

Edit: I am not offended in the slightest.

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Who said that then? “big propulsive kick”

What you replied too said “effective kick,”

Its not effective if it knackers you out. So @SheffSwim whats your point again?

I know…

:laughing: :rofl: :joy:

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only if you cannot understand the concept of proportionality…

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hence the need to develop…

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To be clear, just in case, the whole reply was to @SheffSwim

I understand your comment(s)

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one of Brazil’s best captains…

:slight_smile:

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Yer pools tend to want people poolside who are actually qualified to be poolside. Woke gone mad :rofl:

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Minimum of 10% of every set for a triathlete, ~20% for swimmers, perfect for WU, a lot of drills have a kick focus anyway, ie 0 arms, some anaerobic capacity work, or just “social kick” at the end. So no big deal. I recon my junior triathletes get 400m minimum kick focus in a lot of sessions (not all but most)

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Nope, there isnt, your trust level is not high enough to make any more.