Haha so if I get one you are the man to come to for spare parts 
Never had a problem with mine. It just works.
Rarely used it recently, as I also got a KICKR Bike, but Iāll definitely keep it for any specific sessions on my actual TT bike.
One usp thatās rarely mentioned is it has no frame compatibility problems whatsoever. The neo wonāt work with my TT bike (Scott Plasma) and the kickr wonāt work with my road bike (Canyon Ultimate), and so I was sort of left with no option but the Saris if I wanted a trainer from the premium tier. Never used a Neo but did borrow a Kickr when my Direto died (which is how I found out about the issue with the road bike). I preferred the feel of the H3 once I had it. No regrets.
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07/02/23 ā Bought my first second-hand exercise bike.
15/02/23 ā Starting using it, adjusting it and adapting to it.
Review Here:
I quickly came to the conclusion this was the way forward for home training for me. 
Unfortunately, I havenāt ridden my road bike outside yet, which is the other part of this plan. 
The latest version of this exercise bike (10.0) has been reduced in price to Ā£999.
However, I decided I liked the look of the smaller screen on the previous version (5.0) better.
So, it was back to hunting on Ebay and I have now bought another exercise bike. 
Unnecessary Ebay bidding details
With a āBuy it nowā price of Ā£650, or a starting bid of Ā£165, I was definitely keeping an eye on it.
When the bidding started, it was clear there was no reserve, so it was game on.
With around two minutes to go, a new bidder pushed the price up from Ā£170 to Ā£225.
No problem, Ā£499 was as high as I was prepared to go, so I bid that with less than a minute to go.
This only pushed the price up to Ā£230, so the other bidder hadnāt put an upper limit in.
Thankfully, the other bidder then made more mistakes by trying to beat me by a few quid.
First, with time running out, they went for Ā£235 and my auto bid went to Ā£240.
In the dying seconds they went āall inā for Ā£245 but, again, my auto bid trumped that, game over.
I was very happy to win this auction for Ā£250.
The buyer getting Ā£400 less than their original āBuy it nowā price, maybe ānot so muchā.
The Knightsbridge pickup suggested a genuine 500 miles āon the clockā.
(Making the Ā£250 I paid for it a real bargain.)
Had to lower both the bars and seat to squeeze it into the back of my car.
Home safe and sound.
Iāve ordered tri-bars and handle bar extensions in the hope of some sort of aero position set up.
(Mainly to reduce the strain on my arms.)
I just need to wait for these to arrive before I can make the final sizing adjustments.
Once set up, I will bring this one to the Summer House and the other one to the charity shop.
Iāll do another review after Iāve started using this properly.
Cheers, Paul. 
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My cheap tri-bars and handle bar extenders finally arrived.
(Which, with the help of a hacksaw, I should be able to turn into something useful.)
However, yesterday was the first time I was able to try the bike out and it sounded terrible. 
Fearing I had been sold a lemon, I set about removing, checking and re-tightening stuff.
Despite the fact I was not making any improvements, my wife wanted this out of the dining room.
(Which also doubles as her home office.)
So, we carried it down to the Summerhouse, where I planned to keep using the old one for now.
As you can see, there really isnāt much space left with two of these in here.
Later on, I went to do some training on the old bike and compared them to see what I was missing.
I knew there was a problem where the rear flywheel was rubbing, but couldnāt see how to fix it.
Then there was a moment of clarity when the penny finally droppedā¦.
A firm pull on this piece and it came away in my hand.
Thankfully, the āDiscard it before useā on it confirmed that it was supposed to come out.
Which means the previous owner had done 500 miles with the package case still fitted. 
You can see where the plastic has melted and poured out of the bottom of this piece.
A very quick test with this out of the way resulted in a GQ smooth ride that was also quiet.
HUGE sigh of relief and I can stick to my story that for Ā£250 I picked up a real bargain here.
Hopefully, over Easter I will get a chance to set this up properly and get rid of the other one.
Cheers, Paul.
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Absolutely DONāT get one, Iām still in counselling 
Looks good 
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I have an old-ish wheel on smart trainer. I discovered last night that I now donāt have a bike that fits it as they both now have bolt through axles.
A quick google search threw up many options for replacement axles that will fit a trainer, they all look a little sketchy however.
Anyone use one of these? Or am I looking for a newer trainer?
Occasional use only as I have a Nordictrack bike for most of my indoor training.
Hearing conflicting things/think Iām misinterpreted something so asking for clarificationā¦
can a 12 speed bike be used on an 11sp cassette on the kickr? Some saying yes, some saying only in erg mode?
And making it even less likely Itās SRAM bike on a Shimano cassette if that changes anything.
Or do I just need to spend even more and buy new cassette for the trainer (and not be able to use road bike on it)
The reason for the erg mode comment would be due to the fact youāre never going to get a bike working nicely when the shifters and cassette are not the same number of gears. Each shift on the rear mech would move the chain a different distance to the spacing of the actual cogs on the cassette.
I regularly have used mismatched stuff though (in my case an old 10sp road bike on my 11sp trainer) and then had to just use erg mode. The reason for that is because you can generally find a gear that runs smooth enough (often still a bit noisy), but you then need to leave it there and leave the resistance changes to the turbo. Shifting would take you further and further out of alignment
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That was my assumption, but still some saying 12spd works fine which I canāt understand how it would.
Moot point now Iāve realised will need to change the hub on the kickr to comply with SRAM vs Shimano.
I hate bikes.
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At last. Someone on this forum that sees the world as i do!
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Hey mate. Had the same thing recently as got a great deal on a bike . Then realised it had sram 12sp so would cost a lot to maintain. Then realised my current kickr16 cant take xdr 12sp so my cheep bike just got more expensiveā¦
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Got a fully working (good; Lifeline) fluid trainer for sale, including a spare wheel with an indoor tyre on it to make it easy to just switch wheels on/off.
Canāt sell it even for Ā£30.
Does everyone only want smart trainers now?
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Yes.
No!
Iād have that!
Especially if the wheel takes 10 speed?
God Iām an old Luddite .
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No.
Iāve got 2 fluid trainers that I use, one regularly at work, one in my garage & a smart one stored away.
Itās just my circumstances, Iād use the smart one - which I did dabble with - if I had wifi at work where I do most of my turbo sessions at lunch but I canāt bring myself to pay for a monthly subscription for a training platform that would be used infrequently.
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I sold one about 2 years ago no bother, but it was still winter I think and she wanted it to replace one that had broken.
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Looks like Zwift has binned off their branded turbo and partnered with Wahoo with their simulated gears?
Be a bit peeved if you had bought one? Didnāt bongo get one?
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I donāt think Zwift are binning off their own trainers, just that Wahoo are now offering something similar (including to markets that Zwift donāt supply to).
Anyway, my Kickr Core got the firmware update for virtual shifting and I have Zwift Play controllers so Iām going to give it a go sometime soon
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I might have misread it as it was mostly the headline but that was what I thought it meant 
will read it later.