COVID-19 The Thread

The difference in death rates between vax and unvax is big.

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itā€™s all just bullshit to encourage the unvaccinated to remain unvaccinated

Itā€™s all very simple, itā€™s only complicated for people who donā€™t want to get vaccinated, and donā€™t want to prevent the spread of disease - they need just enough information to justify their position

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35% is much larger than the proportion of the population that are unvaxed. Then add in that the ā€˜at riskā€™ old and vulnerable have even higher vax rate then the chances of hospitalisation is much higher in the unvaxed.

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The Gov. Stats I posted above back up the 35% but considering the number of vaccinated people in the country, it shows 6 times more likely to be hospitalised unvaccinated also. Statistics are all bolox really, can be made to suit any agenda. The telling figure is 700 odd people in an entire month, high % unvaxed (number would be not be 241 but about 41 if vaxed so knocking that figure down to 500) but here we are being fed scare stories and lockdown hanging over our heads once again.

Itā€™s just maths, innit. Omigod spreads much faster but it milder than Delta, so weā€™re told. More people will get it so even though the percentage of people whoā€™ll end up in hospital is smaller, the sample size will be larger so the number in hospital may end up being larger.

Same with the ā€˜hospitals are full of the vaccinatedā€™ claim. Weā€™re 80% double jabbed in my area so hospitalisations has a larger sample size in the vaccinated. However, I think the claim that hospitals are full of the unvaccinated is from pregnant women where the vast majority of Covid related hospitalisations are unvaccinated.

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Feeling awful, took a LFT, negative.

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Took a few days for me to show positive.

Iā€™ve taken 3 LFT tests in the last 24 hours, all negative, but feeling proper ropey at the moment. Should get my pcr result soon, to tell me whether itā€™s ā€˜rona or just a good old fashioned cold.

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Thereā€™s no column there for ā€˜has quoted The Warā€™

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My youngest was sick last week, negative as well so Iā€™m confident itā€™s a non-covid thing. There is of course no 100%.

Mother in Law tested negative throughout the whole ordeal but doctors said she definitely had Covid (because of all the other symptoms she was showing that ticked the Covid box). But all the while she tested negative they couldnā€™t give her the steroids she needed to survive. Giving her steroids as a Covid negative patient would have killed her so doctor couldnā€™t do it anyway. Three tests a day for three weeks, all negative. But she had Covid based on symptoms.

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Iā€™ve got to say that an eyebrow raiser - they were really convinced she had covid despite 21 negative LFTs?

Even on a 70% accuracy basis thatā€™s a casino destroying streak. Can I ask who was administering the tests?

Oh, and as an aside I donā€™t have any of the Covid symptoms.

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Iā€™m not so sure thereā€™s much evidence for this, other than as the statistical effect of a much higher proportion than ever before being re-infections, which makes it appear milder, especially from the South African data.

The tests are not independent events.

London seems pretty quiet at the moment. I wonder if people have fled the city early to avoid getting locked down before Christmas?

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Youā€™re kidding?
My wife says Manchester is mental!

Even our little town is crazy busy (but it is market day)

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Motorways are quiet,
google still thinks Londoners are home at much the frequency of last year, and no (new) drop up to the 15th on retail and recreation

Last year on the 18th it was 53% down and this year on the 15th it was 22% down (pre-pandemic and shops are way down, particularly london shops with more visitors and tourists going to shop), so unless everyoneā€™s gone in the last couple of days. Weā€™ll see in the google data shortlyā€¦

Last year we got put into tier 3 on the evening of the 19th and everything shut

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Thatā€™s why I chose the 18th!

By the 20th 65% drop in retail, 18% drop even at the supermarket etc.