I grew up, for the most part of it anyway, in Lincoln. I lived on a huge council estate that was known within the city as one of the rough areas. TBH, it was fine and in reality is an example of decent planning in terms of green space, paths away from roads and so on. I moved to Leeds as a student and my first thought of student/bedsit land was “Is this Leeds or Beirut?”
For the Hamiltons, Stevenage might have seemed rough but had they lived in a true inner city environment their views would likely have been different. It’s all relative based on experience and perception isn’t it?
I’m calling it a day at this point EJ, if you’ve got a specific point to make that you think justifies the hatred directed at LH then make it but give over with the … I’m an avid F1 fan & as I said watch all the content, Lewis is a decent bloke with incredible talent and has conducted himself extremely well given the circumstances.
Most of the criticism against him IMO is racially motivated, casual observers pick up on stories, titbits etc from social media & form an opinion that doesn’t really reflect the reality & jump on the band wagon.
LH should be celebrated by us for the superb British sports star that he is & you can rest assured there won’t be a sniffle of an EPO story to dent his achievements.
Motorsport in the main, at least at the pointy end is the domain of the wealthy. When your not very wealthy and you are competing for your career against such, these things are relative.
When I was racing at brands hatch for the 1st race of the season and sleeping in a tent with ice on the inside & it’s bloody snowing & my competitor is 10ft away in a luxury motorhome to me I was slumming it. Kent is not really a slum is it?
LH lived in a council house, his competitor Nico Rosberg was a F1 world champions son. These things are relative.
Many years ago, I called an asian guy a “prick”. I could have called him anything, but I chose this word. He called me “big nose” and insinuated I had a small penis before telling me he would “ruin my day”. At this point I saw the futility of the situation and walked off.
Yes, will all be interesting stuff but a 3 way fight for the title would be bad for Merc splitting the points. We might get to see Russel with less to lose making some Max like banzai moves on Max though . Will Russel make Lewis look average as suggested above, I doubt it but look forward to finding out. Norris could be in the running too if they can make a step with the car & benefit from the new rules. Ferrari are likely to be in the mix too next year, both great drivers.
How more specific can I be? He spoke very poorly and i reserve the right to critique him for this…
I don’t justify any of the hatred…have not referred to any hatred…and do not hate Lewis Hamilton. I don’t think it wise to infer motivations especially when you have not invested the time to understand the argument as evidenced above.
Incredible talent? Absolutely. The best driver F1? Possibly. The most successful? Certainly. A decent bloke? Not entirely sure. By F1 standards, possibly and as an elite athlete, there are definitely worse out there.
That’s quite a claim to make and I would be keen to see the justification*.
This may well be the case, but this does not necessarily make them racially motivated*.
He is celebrated. I for one think he has been one of the stand out athletes of all time. But I don’t approve of tax exiles and he is a bit too late to the party in using his celebrity, money and influence for good (although i have concentrated on his driving rather than his life in general which doesn’t appeal).
I guess so. But i doubt EPO will have too much benefit in F1 as opposed to stimulants and possibly steroids. I know that F1 has out of competition testing, but I have not heard of an in competition test. I’d be interested to know if that happens.
Be very cautious of this for two reasons. As Jorgan has posted, we run the risk of incorrectly assuming motives that may be untrue which poses huge problems for the future and won’t be easily unravelled. And secondly, if we do continue along this path of asserting motive, we can rest assured that we will all become the victims of this in the future.
I agree. Hamilton is unpalatable but so would peaty after a few more months. There’s only so much we can take of ‘I scarified everything to get here’ etc - well you didn’t. Your parents did. You just worked hard. As does everyone now fuck off