So I have had a few fittings over the years, despite a small size usually being the manufacturers recommendation, fitter say get a medium and put a short stem on - a very short stem.
My roadie is “medium” has a top tube 530mm and replaced the standard 110mm with a stem 80mm - so 30mm off. Why not just buy a 500mm top tube frame?
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In completely unrelated news, yes, I’ve found an XS bike I like at 40% RRP.
That’s weird, opposite would always be my prefferred. (140mm stem here!)
Are you perhaps needing the height from the larger frame?
Really? That’s pretty much the opposite of what I’ve been advised.
On a road bike, if you’re in between sizes then I was always told you’d feel a lot more agile on a smaller frame.
On a TT bike, whilst you might be able to play around with reach (at least to some extent), a bigger frame is going to be a lot more restrictive on stack if you reach a point at which you cant go any lower.
Lord, no.
172cm.
Do you have a long torso and relatively shorter legs? That’s what would lead to needing a frame size up.
I’m the opposite (long legs, short torso, crap swimmer 
) so go a frame size down so it’s not too long
Really?
I would have thought short legs, smaller frame - my nut sack is always in danger.
Good question to ask, but the below would imply not?
@joex - probably can’t ask them retrospectively, but would be intrigued to hear the rationale of the fitters!
Which bike?
I’m a midjit too…!
I’m the same bigger frames, shorter stems
Yup!
This is why I buy a 56cm instead of a 58cm.
I had a 58 once and it just didn’t feel as nimble or “throwable” into the corners.
That is a very good point. Yeah I’ve no idea why a big frame/short stem combo then 
https://www.cinellibicycles.co.uk/shop/superstar/
I think it’s the 2020 calliper model, chorus, XS is a paltry £1099
Considering I was actually thinking along Tarmac lines…this is almost throwaway prices.
Don’t forget there are bike fitters and bike fitters out there. Many bike fitters spend a lot of time just correct the bodge jobs of other bike fitters.
Some info about stem length
Campag…?!
Nice, why so cheap?
I thought new stuff was crazy money due to covid 19?!?
Only XS available and presumably noone buying…
Up the midjits!!
You going for it?
172 isn’t that short; is there some other morphology going on here?
I have a long body for my height and it bugs the shit out of me, that the moment any clothes shrink slightly, it exposes my back when I lean forward. Either that or I have to buy a size too big to get enough body length 