Do you mean your forefoot?
Yep, and…
Useful…
Yes, but…
So you spotted that one👍🏼
Yeah, by toes I mean forefoot.
But looking at my blackened toenails, you’d think I run on my toe ends 
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Well, you can do both…it’s not mutually exclusive…
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Oh!
I meant that running downhill naturally increases stride length and cadence - it’s like a cheats way of doing it.
Only thing is to remember to lean forwards, chest out, drive the arms back and relax.
You’re not going to fall over, just allow those legs to really turnover and enjoy the free speed and increased stride length.
Probably best starting out doing this on grass
It doesn’t ‘naturally’ do anything…usually runners over extend the knee and lean back…
Be perpendicular to the slope…
Increase cadence, use the arms for balance…and relax…
best on easier and shorter slopes initially (grass is cool) and easing into these sessions…there is increased injury risk until form and functional strength has improved…
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So I’m unusual then.
But yes, I’d agree with you there 
Actually making me wanna go run down a hill now
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Good point, that’s even better advice than the first one I gave, longer stride without even having to think about it.
Travelator would work too.
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Surprised your cadence increases so little at pace 
Nobody had hinted at solution either. It’s like a softened, esoteric version of a slowtwitch thread! 
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Stilts innit. The op didn’t say wanted stride length AND speed.
Close the thread.
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They’re pretty much all the same pace, which is my only pace 
HM was in 4%, other two in Next%.
I was 180spm when I could run quicker.
So probs should work on eking out another twelve strides per minute.
Noooo - don’t close the thread
Tell me more about these stilts - seems like a two pronged solution 
These stilts Kangaroo stilts
Nike Alphas will increase your stride length.
But not your cadence.
Not sure why you deleted the post, it is useful for the conversation…
It is not the point of contact per se (although that is arguable), it is shank angle that is important…
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Yeah I was thinking that … didn’t want to say anything though 
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the hints are there…
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Eh?
I’ve pretty much said what I’d do!
Run downhill but don’t fall over.
That increases stride length, cadence and speed.
Simples.
Do that enough until you learn what it feels like.
Don’t get injured.
Do it on the flat.
Or buy some fancy shoes.
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Sorry eJC, it was just I was thinking that focussing on just foot strike was a bit daft. When I was treating runners I never did, it was more about trying to get them better at managing load while finding ways to improve their running, usually strengthening and coordintion/control drills/exercises TBH, as I was not a running a coach. I find the different perspectives genuinely interesting though.
I agree on shank angle and foot angle on contact both to each other and to the ground.
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Do next race on the moon 
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