Momentous event cancellation and lack of refund

Well lugging an extra 10kgs up those mountains won’t help either. that’s on me. (literally :laughing:)

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The biggest ‘danger’ for any of us now as we get older, is to back off the gas too much. Sure don’t over-do it, but if you let go of your fitness too much after 45 or so, I think it’s way harder to get back.

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I am stunningly unfit, so I resemble this comment for sure.

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This is absolutely true, especially this time of year. I sometimes get conflicted about giving my body a rest and just relaxing in my laters years, to wanting to carry on.

This is why for me, cancelled events hit hard, because with the exception of surfing, I’m the type that has to have an event or hard race to train for. I’ve never been a ‘keep fit’ type.

The races and experiences are the carrot and without those and the fact of getting older, it sure gets harder to convince yourself to get out of bed on a cold wet morning.

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Centurionn did well putting on events last year during tiers so I am pretty confident that Thames Path and SDW100 will be on - prospect of the SDW should be enough to keep you focussed :grin:

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I was looking forward to UTMB leading up to last year, but less so now that I’ll be 2 years older, assuming I do go next year. I did have a level of fitness then and although there’s plenty of time to build back up it will be a challenge.

It’s also more the fact I had other plans for next year as well.

But I will do it as I’m quite keen to do the races I missed last year, more a personal thing really. In your face Covid and all that :joy:

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I think I’m the opposite to you - I’ll train most days whether I’ve got an event or not, just because I enjoy training. I enter the occasional event to justify the fact that I’m training :rofl:

When I was rowing, I never really understood the guys who would get out of the boat at Henley in early July and then do nothing apart from maybe the occasional “party regatta” (hangovers compulsory) until formal training started again in mid-September. They always started back massively out of shape and it took them weeks before they were in anywhere near the condition they’d been in.

You can get away with that when you’re in your 20s but definitely not in your 40s and 50s.

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I think that’s why I’ve always liked to diversify. Road cycling, TTs, track cycling in winter, road running, trail and tri and XC.
I don’t think I could continually enter the same type of even year after year. That’s why I’ve always said that the SBR ‘pillar’ sets up for so many different things.
I need variety but I need events, even if it’s just a local crit, that’s just how I’m wired. Not sure why.

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much like a lot of rugby players when I was playing - season would finish at the end of April and you wouldn’t see many of them again before August at least even though training for the next season had started in June. I kept fit by running in summer - which for a prop was pretty unheard of!

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So, was it a coincidence that the IM ceo does a briefing one day and a load of races are deferred the following day :thinking:

Wonder if any US races are affected?

But? We should give them a bit of credit for doing it now.

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Some credit due for the Lanza announcement. 13 weeks or so in advance of when it should have been happening with three options, happy enough with that.

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Your registration will be automatically moved to the new event date in July, but you can also choose from below additional options:

  • Defer your entry to the 21st of May 2022 IRONMAN Lanzarote
  • Defer your entry to the 20th of May 2023 IRONMAN Lanzarote

From the Lanza thread. This clearly shows that the concern of some that Ironman will invoke the “sorry, you’ve already had your deferral” stance is not playing out. In addition, they’re offering even better deferral options than I’ve previously seen. Picking your choice over the next couple of years is a better position, and at least gives people some flexibility.

Still not a refund, but hopefully a sign of a slightly more flexible approach. In all honesty, I can see it suits them too. If some defer to 2023, then it means if 2022 can go ahead, they have more spots to sell for that year rather than just a whole load of pre-paid deferrals.

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They’ve got to do that asap, surely. As it’s a question of cash flow. The constant deferral, delay process hits business as much as the individuals, especially the longer it drags on. So if they can get a bunch of people spread out over the next 3 years, then as you say, get into selling the empty places. I’m assuming to a predominantly ‘local’ crowd, at whichever race it so may apply.

Assuming they are still able to run the event at the same capacity and not reducing numbers - so just spreading the deferrals over smaller fields for the next 2-3 years…

Reading all this, I’m really lucky that I didn’t have any big plans last year, and I am content to train away in my garage / local park / local lake until the outlook is much clearer. If I race IRL this year it will be a late entry to a local event.

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Yeah the issue with filling pre paid races from previous years is that it allows no room for prices rises. Supplier costs are going through the roof for PPE and contract clauses that stipulate safe working practices, which quite often involves a lot of single use stuff (and in many cases, that equipment is in extremely short supply)

I’m sure IM will ride that storm with their deep pockets but a different story for the smaller RDs and orgs.

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Lanza is a bit different from the other IM events in that it’s run by Club La Santa and not the IM organisation. I suspect they don’t have that many people working full time on the event and most of the infrastructure lives in some shipping containers at CLS and they just keep rolling the same stuff out every year. The event’s other main sponsor is the local government, so they’re probably not having to lay out any cash upfront for venues and policing.

IM is a big thing for CLS, but it’s only a small part of their overall business. Obviously they’re not earning their usual revenue stream at the moment as they’ve been shut since the 1st lockdown, but a reasonable chunk of their apartments are pre-sold timeshares.

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Fair enough, didn’t know that. But yeah, i was talking quite generally against the context of these announcements.

Had a long chat with my RD mate last night, as he’s constantly pulling his hair out trying to decide what to do with his events this year. 2 have already been postponed/cancelled, and we’re nearing the next lot. So have been troubleshooting together trying to find a way through it all. As you say, IM is a VERY different prospect to the guy/girl that relies on these few races a year (as well as the other half of his business in my friend’s particular example) to feed his family.

Yeah it’s tough alright. You talking Mud Crew? I wonder how SWC are doing?

No, climb south west. If I were a child, I guess I’d refer to him as my best mate. As I’m a total adult. Deffo a mature adult :lying_face:, then he’s a good friend.

Yeah he’s my BFF! :joy:

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Ah yes CSW, not SWC! I enjoyed (mostly) their events. Only thing I didn’t like was that finish in Minehead is bloody horrible, finish at the pub :pray:

Top folks though and great races. I hope they can see their way through.

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