bargain…!
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I deleted the app.
Just too many trainers to buy and return.
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That’s relative!!! haha
I guess if you compare it to secs per £ against for instance a lightweight disc it is…
Ah but therein lies the issue. Normalising gross amounts of money for the elusive chasing of a few seconds. Don’t get me wrong, i’m not saying people shouldn’t buy them, or that they’re not ‘worth it’ as that is a very individual perception of worth. I’ve considered them myself.
But nothing about a £157 running trainer can be considered a bargain. Nike have just very cleverly moved those jumpers up the football pitch by another 20m!!
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I am in no way saying these are a bargain and I’m also not a quick enough runner to truly benefit I suspect. I have in the past spent about £140 on a pair of Adidas Ultra Boost so not too far off. I’m still on the fence - clever marketing from Nike…
You can always send them back within 30 days if you don’t like them so just get them 
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I’m getting some …
And I’m tight as a gnats chuff…
Do they do normal colours…?!
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Forgot about that!
@Mungo2. Only orange when I looked earlier
Yuk…
But faster than blue…
By 4%…?
The hoka ones got a better review but are not as fast…!?
This thread is crazy long…
Lazy Q on here rather than look properly tomorrow, but in mean time does anyone know if Hoka/On do similar trial? Would like to try them both given they’re quite different
So, I ordered a pair some months ago and they have been sitting unopened and unchecked in a delivery bag along with another pair or Merrell Trail Gloves (my 4th or 5th pair) which cost 39.99. I paid full whack for them because i went to my usual supplier and wish to keep them in business. As a matter of curtesy he gave me my usual 10% off - so still far from a bargain. I should add at this point that for many years i have been wearing more minimal shoes along with zero differential Altras for extra cushioning on longer runs.
I live on the course of the Helmdon Hurler, an undulating just over 4 mile course of road and gravel track - probably not the most suitable course, but hey ho. I last raced the Hurler August Bank Holiday last year and ran 31:08 in a not very fit condition.
Now in an even less fit condition and somewhat tired after 2 weeks of travel and 15 consecutive days running, I took them for a test run. I should add that i regularly (when i do run) run the course at the end of the working day and am usually somewhere between 34 and 36 minutes thi summer.
I ran it on Monday in 34:06 in my Altras in reasonable conditions - a tail wind for a section and a slight headwind on the main drag uphill. I ran it again today in much worse conditions, very blustery with mainly headwinds, but in the next%s in a time of 31:44.
On putting them on, they feel very clunky and i had to take out the top lace holes to adapt the fitting. The toe box is reasonably wide and I wisely bough a larger pair to give me toe room, but the middle section is too restrictive. The rear part of the sole is an abomination.
Running on my forefoot gave odd feedback from the road - I would need more time in them to articulate that better - and before I was up the first hill, I wanted to cut much of the rear away. It made them feel very clunky.
Without feeling that i was working too hard, until the last couple of minutes when I pushed a bit having seen my watch, it was no harder than my run on Monday. HR Monday Ave 133, max 141, HR today Ave 136, max 147. The conditions would account for some of that.
Stride length up from 1.17 to 1.24 m
Vertical oscillation down from 7.6% to 6.8%.
Cadence up from 174 to 178 spm
It is worth noting that when I raced last year, Ave HR 152, max 163 bpm. 1.26 m SL, 178 spm, stance 226 ms.
Garmin claims my race performance last year to be 3.8 impacting aerobic, and today 2.1 maintaining aerobic…
Stance time down from 258ms to 252 ms
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But where’s your conclusion EJC?! 
Or do we have to wait for episode 2?! 
My daily trainer is coming to the end, and i’m trying to decide whether to go like for like, as i do love them (normal Pegs) or to move over to the Altra Escalante which i really like th elook of and from my research i think it would work well for me. Which altra do you have?
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VERY hard to get NIke to do anything in a normal colour!! Though i do have one pair of black pegs. Very unusual!
That was my fave thing about my old Adios Boosts. They were just a nice, classic looking navy blue. No stupid logos, no stupid bright colours. Just a nice looking pair of trainers.
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Do we do 70.3 and full distance run splits in these wonder shoes?
I guess people bed them in then keep for races
As EJC said a free min per half hour ish is huge.
Well I think that’s what he said?
The only way around that for Pegasus is to use the make my own or whatever they call it option and pay the full £129 for the privilege
I just choose the cheapest ones in the end. I just don’t like the colours. Though i would draw the line at white trainers, like those abominations that Adidas brought out a year or so ago - the Terrex Boa ones. Hideous!!!
a poor coach makes judgements and intervenes too soon…interim conclusion, fugly, clunky, misshapen but fast…we will see what they do to my biomx (looking down it appeared that they exacerbated my lateral mid/fore foot landing which will potentially both increase rate and distance of pronation…this resulted in some noticeable discomfort in right medial knee. of course I broke all my usual rules of introducing changes gradually.
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2:22 for just over half an hour…
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For longer distance?
Impressive figures.