PEDs

Again you present this in a thought provoking way; if I might paraphrase…

‘I lost my right leg aged 31; I probably feel the affect more than someone who was born with a lower limb disability and should therefore receive favourable treatment’

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to paraphrase is to provide greater clarity, not to make assumptions…

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But I am not talking about doping with T, I am talking about a hypothetical situation where I could get a TUE… even in this situation I am not sure.

Following this discussion I have done some more research, the potential long term damage to health by taking T do not look good, weaker immune system, increase heart attacks, weaker cardiovascular system, not sure that IM performance is worth it. It also appears that once you start taking T you actually start to lose your natural ability to metabolise fat, and therefor need to continue taking T

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Once you start taking T your body will shut down its own production. That’s why bodybuilders who dope have tiny balls as they shrivel up because they not producing T any more.

If you stop it might recover, but it might not. Doping T to performance enhancing levels has some really nasty side effects as you describe so you really have to wonder why people do it. Guess its the smokers defence " it wont happen to me".

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One of the key reasons something is added to the banned list is because of adverse effects to health

A susbstance needs to meet 2 of the following 3 criteria to be added :-

  1. It has the potential to enhance or enhances sport performance
  2. It represents an actual or potential health risk to the athletes
  3. It violates the spirit of sport
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It was paraphrasing to demonstrate how it might be interpreted; or indeed justified by some people.

What other ways might someone interpret what you wrote? You like to thought provoke, and have done so nicely.

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I’ll put this here.

Artur Beterbiev ( 175 lb Russian boxer ) beat Callum Smith at the weekend, a big fight which I stayed up too watch.

The guy is 20-0 20 knock outs.

The only current world champion with a “ perfect” record, lots are unbeaten but will have needed the judges at some stage.
His power is just crazy for 12.5 st man.
Smashing elites to pieces with arm punches ( jabs, short uppercuts) at will.

In December he provided Atypical test for raised test and HGH ( Atypical is not pos or neg it’s a spike that CAN occur naturally )
Hence the fight went ahead, another world champion smashed to pieces in first gear and the show rolls on.

The pundits who know much more than me all agreed it was a career best performance

Artur is 39 next week and just keeps getting better and better, a devout Muslim who has never been in a bar he certainly lives the life, but what he is doing doesn’t seem “ possible”
He was tested 17? Times in 2023 and remains a clean athlete, hyrox and top tri age groupers … fill your boots.

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that is paraphrase

that is supposition

Absolutely…

why, thank you…

:slight_smile:

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I’ve heard that somewhere before…

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Is that Russian testing? :roll_eyes:

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Hmm; smoke > fire.

Alejandro V, is that you?

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Loads and loads saying he’s clean
Not just the usual manager promotor friends wife and kids!
He’s been a beast for his whole career, just strange to get “ more power” at that age.

Nowt like Lance to be honest, I guess we’re all cynical due to previous let downs in several sports.

He a likeable guy and I think year round Vada tested for a few years, some boxers only get tested when there in camp
10 weeks of the year x :2… utterly pointless to be honest
Micro dosing wouldn’t even show as it’s always urine but not blood, drug testing in boxing is a joke as there is no world governing body to pay / organise / enforce it

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Lol

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I caught a bit of Gladiators at the weekend which has British sprinter Harry Aikines-Aryeetey playing Gladiator Nitro.

He was a big unit when sprinting but has bulked out even more - not on drugs of course, no sirreee……FFS

https://uk.rsng.com/categories/movement-fuel/articles/harry-aikines-aryeetey-is-the-team-gb-sprinter-who-has-turned-muscle-into-explosive-power

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The kids were watching that, and I thought he seemed familiar.

It was absolutely bloody awful! :joy:. But the kids found it quite fun (for a little while anyway).

Definitely no whiff of any PEDs on that show! :joy:

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we watched up to the 1st 2 pugil stick “fights” and then switched to something else.

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We watched it for nostalgia value, but I don’t think it’s aged very well :man_shrugging:

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The fact he’s Russian automatically means he doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt from me.

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I wonder how many people realise that many ‘celebrity soldiers’ on TV bulk-up after they leave. Look at pictures of Middleton & Fox when they were actually serving.

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