The clip has a helpful list of all the cheaters, as they ride out. You just have to pick out the 32 who didn’t abandon…
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But you would be clean at the comp, in training is when it is of mostl value. Certainly for HGH, T and EPO. You know you can get away with a bag of RBCs if you do it properly.
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I’d know
That’s all that really matters.
I know how they work, sad in any guise but for an age grouper just sad … AF
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just sad for anyone…
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Dear me, this just gets worse. I’m fairly sure she’ll have had little choice in this given their history and sporting bodies, barely a teenager when it started. And god knows what long term damage it might have done to her.
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Started frequenting some bodybuilding forums for workout advice etc. and, fairly inevitably, PED discussions are rife.
I went down a bit of a rabbit whole and started reading some of them today including this one below:
"Hello guys. This is going to be a pretty lengthy post, but I would really appreciate if some more knowledgeable people than myself could chime in.
So i’m on my first cycle, 425mg Test E per week. I pin 125mg EOD in an attempt to stabilise levels. I’m on week 14, and was planning on going to 20 but i’m not sure I can handle it. Everything started off great, felt the best i’ve ever felt; confidence was high, brain fog gone, no anxiety, no depression, libido was high as ****. I suffer from bad depression and some other mental things, so this was amazing for me.
I added some Anavar around week 3, at 20mg. I worked my way up to 50mg (high for first cycle - i realise that now). I used Anavar for around 8 or 9 weeks (I have since dropped the var). Overall was good with little sides. I noticed I was becoming bloated from water retention, high BP/redness in face, spicy nips, erection quality was deteriorating, acting irrationally and emotionally uncontrolled - classic high E2 symptoms. So, I used 0.5mg Adex. 2-3 days later i’ve never felt worse in my life. My E2 was in the dirt; joints felt like drywall, ZERO erection at all, apathetic, very depressed, dry lips and skin, no fullness in muscles etc.
As my E2 rebounded in the coming weeks, I decided to add Primo E to the stack in hopes to control estrogenic sides (retarded for the first cycle i know). I followed the usual 1:1 ratio of Test[image]rimo, a little lower though, thus shot 100mg Primo E EOD. 4 pins later (8 days), my low E2 sides were back - it felt very similar to the time a few weeks prior when I took 0.5mg Adex. So i stop pinning the primo, stop the anavar, and just stick with my normal dose of test.
My last pin of primo was around 3 weeks ago now, and I still feel like ****ing cancer. When stopping the primo I felt good for a bit, maybe a week, and then I started feeling terrible again. Depressive episodes, insane fatigue no matter how long I sleep, libido is literally crushed and I can’t get hard during sex for more than 5-10 minutes even with 20mg of cialis. I look the best I ever have rn and i’m in my final year of university and it’s so frustrating because I wanna bang all these hot thots I match with on tinder but i can’t because my dick is broken and i’m like an emotionless bastard.
I took bloods abouts 1.5 weeks ago. I’ll post the results here. Key takeaways are:
Test - 2700ng/dl
E2 - 42 pg/ml
SHBG - 7 (ref range is 18.2+ so it’s very low)
Prolactin - 284 (high)
PLEASE PLEASE can someone tell me what the **** is going on. I don’t know wether my E2 is still ‘low’ and is taking time to rebound, if my E2 is high and I need to use an AI, if it’s my prolactin causing ED and libido, if it’s my SHBG causing ED and libido issues?!
Any help is appreciated, i’m seriously at my breaking point and i’m thinking of just dropping to a cruise because i can’t handle the uncertainty. Thanks guys, stay saucy."
The majority of the replies, even from hardened juicers, were for him to get off everything and let his body sort itself out as he’d taken far too much and a cocktail of all sorts of shit; at which point he got really arsey and completely ignored what they were saying.
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which is probably how he got into the mess…
that…and being a complete twat…
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Beat me to the last bit ?!
What could possibly motivate someone to do that to himself? And pay a few quid to get in that mess?!
Sometimes it’s a sad sad world.
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Its like banging uppers and downers, just to stabilise the mess youve made. Baffles me.
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Who knows???
Indeed…several hundred years ago they would have not lived that long…
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I’ve heard people don’t like it when other people do that…
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If that’s true his testosterone level is between 3 and 10 times the normal physiological range.
Must be like a rutting stag. Wouldn’t want to get into an argument with him or cut him up in traffic.
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How do you know?
It doesn’t mention his age, he could be 60, but if he’s on a dating site with hot thots. that’s unlikely ?
I’ve only ever knew one person who got close to this and he was 25 ish.
That really is a sad story
Says final year of Uni, so likely very early 20’s, unless a mature student.
All those side effects are mental why would you want to put yourself through that, presumably in his case only for aesthetics.
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Just re read it !
At any age that’s just bonkers.
Lifting, circuits, tri hyrox whatever is ultimately designed to be enjoyable and make you feel better about yourself, I hope he got himself sorted.
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I think PEDs are fairly easy to get hold of in Spain? Certainly a lot of Pro Cyclists used to go to Spanish places to meet their doctors. Doesn’t Sam Laidlow have a Spainish doctor; despite his nationaiity/residence.
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His family have set up base 5 or 6 miles from the Spanish border so that may not be unusual although there is wee bit of smoke around Sam.
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Isn’t it the same Dr Frodo uses in Girona?
Dr in Spain probably cheaper than France, Girona has so many pro athletes who train there, Dr probably more familiar with elite athletes.
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I gotcha 
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