Thought it was Bangkok, Pattpong (sp) 1 or 2, or maybe both, many years ago mind
Its an experience to see (and hear!)⌠and its Singapore⌠its become as much a tourist attractions as it is a âserviceâ 
Iâve been to Orchard Road, just shops, no knockinâ. 
Sorry, the ÂŁ8,499 price I quoted was for the Aerium C68 SLT 2020 version
The 2021 edition is priced at ÂŁ10,499
But seeing as Cube have shipped zero bikes into the UK in 2021, chances of getting one might be slim.
Makes you why Canyon sponsor Sanders when you canât buy one in Canada either.
They have also just gone up 14%
That magical 14%. Yay to Brexit 
Yes, but we got back control of our borders 
You know you can leave the UK,right? Nobody is holding a gun to your head.
Itâs like the dickheads that say to me âyouâre so lucky to be able to live in Oz, Iâd do that given half a chanceâ. Itâs bollox, you had the same chance I did, you just have to sacrifice. Oh whatâs that? you donât want to leave your parents because of the babysitting or bank of Mum and Dad doesnât exist 12,000 miles away? boo fucking hoo.
Thatâs what it takes. There are always options, which is fuck ton better than living a life moaning.
this is my 5th country and my 37th house. Nobody paid for my moves, nobody gave me a âsoft landingâ no expat package and I still like it here, or there.
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More than that on mine. Theyâre still offering* the exact same bike (spec, colour scheme, everything), yet itâs gone up from 2,799 to 3,299! 
thatâs 17.86%. Seriously glad I purchased when I did now!
I guess this is going to play out with all direct to consumer business models. I assume power2max are also now entirely uncompetitive in terms of pricing in the UK. The headline prices wonât have changed on their website, but the import duty and vat will make them so.
(*) if an Aug 2021 estimated delivery as of today can really be considered available for sale!
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Last time I did group rides in canada everyone was on a cervelo
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VAT has not changed remember, only duty.
My propel from last year is looking much better value now, ÂŁ3200 with Ultegra Di2 and a dual sided power meter.
Always amazed by the number of people riding around in winter on good carbon bikes.
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I absolutely know that. More than most as you know. I also have 2 passports and speak 2 languages. I also have ongoing job applications in Austria and france.
The anger is at the shit show that was the Brexit vote. A lie!!! I didnât vote for it but I have to live with it - until I move.
You do know that everyone is entitled to an opinion that may be different to yours!?
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My Paralane is carbon and itâs my spare bike at Mumâs, gets used all weathers. Not sure if itâs âgoodâ. It has 105 and boat anchor wheels, what was surprising when I bought it was that there wasnât much difference between the carbon and alloy versions.
Just been on a little local stroll with the family. Amazed by the number of decent bikes out with deep section wheels and no mudflaps.
After the rain yesterday the roads and lanes around here will be properly shitty too. Must be meticulous with their cleaning!
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Yes I do. I have 2 passports and a mixed race family and I can speak two languages (not sure why Europeans think they are the only ones that can? )
I donât like the outcome of Brexit either but getting wound up about and constantly shouting about it gets nowhere does it! We have a long term exit plan as well but Iâve found in all 5 countries Iâve lived and paid tax in, you have to adjust to the place you are in. Make the most of where you are. Doesnât mean itâs all great but itâs rarely all shit either.
Yes I get that others have a different opinion but contaminating every thread with Brexit winging it Covid sky is falling, when we have other thread for people to vent there, just gets bloody boring. Itâs a cheap response that adds nothing all the conversation.
You can move now, same as I can. The hurdles are the ones we put in our own way. If itâs convenient to stay, stay, if itâs not, go. Just donât be a perennial moaner.
No because shutting up about it accepts it and doesnât hold the lying politicians to account. Itâs the same as racism and gender inequality. Not talking about it accepts it.
âThe grass is greener where you water itâ - youâve got to make the most of life where you are (not where you want to be) but you donât Just role over and say you must just accept everything - an advantage of living in a democratic world. If you believe passionately about it make a point of learning and then opposing with facts.
Weâll just agree to disagree on this point. Let this topic get back to its original subject.
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awildt - No because shutting up about it accepts it and doesnât hold the lying politicians to account. Itâs the same as racism and gender inequality. Not talking about it accepts it.
I completely agree but there is an audience for it. You arenât holding lying politicians to account on here.
Personally, I come on here to avoid all the other social media crusades that arenât going to change anything, and I avoid the Brexit thread on here because life is depressing enough if you let it be. Iâd prefer not to read about it on a thread about LCB and bikes.
Of course, I have the option to not open any thread just in case I donât like what is being said, but the thread titles should give some indications on what is safe.
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I know. Apologies for rising to the bait. Just stating the facts for price rises and that leads on to other things 
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