Pro Cycling Live - will contain spoilers

My understanding of his team and its stance was never based on JV having raced clean himself. More that rather than pretending it doesn’t happen and no one has ever done it, fess up, privately within the team to team management and you can ride for the team. Pretty sure that’s why Thomas Dekker rode for them for bit, but he had had enough of cycling by then.

I see it in contrast to other teams who talk about everyone being 100% clean and then hiring riders, former riders and doctors from notoriously dirty teams.

JV is definitely odd.

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Read a few autobiographies of ex riders from Garmin/ EF teams and Vaughters comes across as an absolute c*nt of a manager.

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yes but he’s an absolute legend so we forgive him :wink:

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Phil Gaimon’s book about his experiences of getting onto JVs team and his treatment once he was there is a good read and quite an eye opener

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Yeah, doesn’t paint JV in a good light and backs up what others say about him too.

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He what, claimed three short courses of EPO, nothing else wasn’t it? Not far off “once”.

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Yep it was iirc.

I’ve read Vaughters autobiography.

He states that the team was designed so people didn’t have to dope, and weren’t pressured to do so. This reflected his own career, where he felt forced.

If you buy that or not is a different point.

Definitely agree that he’s odd. Think he’s also been diagnosed with adult ADHD.

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I have it on Kindle but not got around to it. Think i overdone the cycling books when everyone came out with their “it was lances fault” books :wink:
Thomas Dekker is unbeatable also in that genre so couldnt follow it with any more of the same for a while.

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Tom Danielson kind of messes up the team ethos then. He doped when on the team.

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Oh I know, not saying I support JV or believe his bluster.

And Tom Danielson is a name I haven’t heard for ages! Meant to be the next big thing!

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Have a little browse on google. He recently had to get a finger amputated because of cancer.

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Great finish to an otherwise dull ToB stage today.

Agree @Doonhamer . Genius tactics by JV.

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Even the most diehard optimist has got to be suspicious/cynical of a 1-2-3 on a stage like today.

The commentary were going on about what an exciting stage but when the result is practically a foregone conclusion it really isn’t that exciting

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Well happy that knobhead dropped off a cliff. (Remco) :joy::joy:

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Haven’t seen any of the vuelta for some reason. But I can tell you I do not like that Remco. No idea why. But he’s always massively grated.

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Tbh I always felt like that about CVDSH.

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Yup!

He was meant to be “the next big thing”
But he comes across as a petulant teenager who feels like the world owes him something.
Like he “knows” he’s “special” and that everything should just be served up to him.

Him and Caleb Ewen need to do one :door::running_man:t2::point_left:t3:

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