Quality Slowtwitch/IMJ Threads

I haven’t cracked it yet so I can’t give up. I have to get at least as good as x in something before I can walk away. Although probably this year if I don’t, I’ll have to accept this is as good as I can get.

2016 I trained to exhaustion on the bike for six months, quit everything after the IM race
2017 I trained less but more focussed and burned out, added two hours to my Ironman time
2018 I half-assed it
2019 I full-assed it and regained my first year “glory”
2020 full ass again, no real races
2021 We’ll see, no indications of greatness yet

If three years consistent training is better than six months, then I think it’s reasonable to expect a peak - however fast or slow that is.

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I always agree with the IMTalk 3 year rule, although I’d say the longer you do short course and single sport racing for the better your IM will be when you do one. Going sub 9 or getting to Kona does need some natural talent, well not much but a bit and also the time to be able to train and more importantly recover from it. That will never happen for 99% of us, but to perform well relatively it just takes time, its not like running a10k in sub 30 or climbing a mountain like Quintana which will never happen if you are north of 55kg and 5ft 4. IM is one of those sports that time rewards.

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Its not only IMJ, a post from a BTF coaches group. I don’t know what worries me more, that kids start triathlon unable to swim, that coaches think its in their remit to teach kids to swim or that they even need to ask this question.

"We’re starting junior swim sessions in the pool, can coaches be in the water too? We have several youngsters that need support in the water and can’t see anything to confirm if we can do this. "

ha, I spotted that one too :roll_eyes:

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Reads a bit like my efforts.

Never had a decent crack or time to show for any of my LD races

2014 - Outlaw. First time. Bit wet behind the ears. Quite naive

2015 - year off Tri. Focused on bike racing

2016 - IM South Africa. Woefully unfit. Marathon longer than the bike

2016 - Outlaw. DNS Injured ankle at mates stag do (less said about that the better) - writes off year

2017 - IM Wales. First child months before. fitness plummeted.

2018 - no planned full distance. Kind of a breakout year. Penny dropped for me though. Really started to get what was required

2019 - Outlaw - bike rained off

2020 - Did what I could

2021 - IM Wales. Will give this everything but slow course

Essentially it’s taken me the best part of a decade where I can probably claim to be FOP on the right day and parcours

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Epic :clap:t3::clap:t3::clap:t3:

I like that synopsis.

2019 was the year it “clicked” for me.
I think maturity, both in life and sport, really helped with that one :hugs:

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Epic by IMJ standards perhaps :rofl:

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A true Ironman journey :rofl:

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So what you’re saying is, I’ve still got some time building up to it ‘clicking’ it’s not just that I’m a bit slow.

It also makes me want to do an IM, only gone up to 70.3

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70.3’s are a beautiful thing.
Ironman’s are truly horrific.

Half’s you can smash and just do another one in four weeks if you go wrong.

Full’s? Totally exhausted financially, mentally, physically and emotionally for about a month afterwards.

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The odd thing is, if you’ve stayed fit, you’re still relatively young and you commit to Ironman/FD training, you can have a good day. My debut was Roth, which I did in 10:09 and that was only off 12 months dedicated Triathlon training; I had a 10 year hiatus from swimming. I was 33-34 at the time though! In the end, I only went faster than that twice in another 7 goes. I’ve not gotten any closer since turning 40 either (10:28 being my best). But I have been VERY consistent.

My point really, is that you can go from relatively ‘zero-to-hero’ if you work hard; and don’t assume plugging away over the years will get you big gains unless you introduce a seismic shift. Oh, and as far as Ironman training…ignorance CAN be bliss!

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You’d be in a far better position signing up for an IM than I was.

From following you on here and Strava you’ve got years of S/B/R behind you. I’d probably say your kids and job stress would be your main limiters.

In true IMJ style I jumped in with both feet. Straight into the inaugural Outlaw half. My swim was 46.26 ffs :rofl:

I’m a walking cliche. Hopefully i can start enjoying years of work and consistency :crossed_fingers:t2::grimacing:

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It’s funny how the internet people here know rather a lot about me, probably more than many IRL.

I started exercising in 2012 ish, and very regularly in 2016. I still remember my first sub 25min 5k in 2016 when I went out with a friend who was a bit faster than me. Yes, it’s young kids and busy job (mine and the wife’s) means that I don’t want to/can’t commit many more hours than I currently do.

I’ve also done a 46min 1900m swim in a race, thanks @fatbuddha for making it non-wetsuit…

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It’s worrying isn’t it; the information (we) people volunteer on Forums.

Some even post feet pics.

That’s basically an invitation

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It shocks me how many people get cut off in races with a sea swim and say “I ve never swum in open water before” or cut off on the bike and start crying and going on that they are an Incredible runner and that is unfair. You know the deal when you sign up. I think IMJ can be helpful to people but too many nob heads know it all.

Do you remember Iron Rookie and the doctored number?

Long distance racing is very different (for me) to any other. I had a shit fest at a race and did another LD 6 weeks later on an appalling day weatherwise and got a PB. On my first I was that person crying my way round deserted streets in Italy in the dark and dashed in not much under the cut off, disappointed and totally underwhelmed.

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I don’t get feet aversion, or feet attraction.

Are they opposites, or does an aversion to feet lead to a foot fetish? :face_with_monocle:

How do the same people feel about hands? :open_hands:

I love Halfs now.

Even did some back to back ones

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Yes half is a much more palatable day out.

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