Run focussed Iron distance training

Anyone whose Garmin doesn’t have their VO2 at 60+. Leave the thread.

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whilst that’s interesting, it is well publicised that regular exercise is good for you. They are not talking about high intensity activity in athletes, its talking about general population exercising. It makes no mention of “flight or fight” , recovery , the importance of diet or sleep on the above. If these get fit quick schemes were so good, why do the very best age groupers and elites all have the same things in common. They do a large part of their training at low intensities and do the same things day in day out for years.

A podcast is not science, its an opinion piece :wink:

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Not much, I did LV Olympic bike with it, maybe one swim or a Zwift, and two stronglifts 5x5. So while I like the format I’m looking at adapting it; shorter long runs, and maybe a preference for the longer intervals. I’m not suggesting RLRF + Iron bike and swim.

Well hang on, what is “get fit quick” about over ten hours a week training?

Garmin is still giving me 66 and I can barely run or ride! (100 watts per hour below when it’s previously given me 66 and 30seconds per km over 5km)

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Its promoting run less run faster. 10 hours running a week when you currently do 4? This gets better :wink: I wonder how you will feel about this in 8 weeks time and your consistency and quality of sessions.

What magic is this?

Were you dressed as a hippo in year 1, was year 2 downhill, did you consult Dr Ferrari over the winter etc?

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Ah I thought you were racing long next year, not just running.

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It was the exact same course Leiden 10km, the primary difference was I bought a bike, and cycled.

Haha no wonder you were 10 minutes faster if you rode a bike round

I guess that’s not what you mean though- did all that run improvement just come from bike training? Amazing if so.

Having said that, there are a couple of guys locally who mainly bike but seem able to pop out a really strong park run once in a while, so food for thought- thanks.

How fast do you think you would be/ have you been with specific run training too?

Sorry not trying to derail thread, but may be relevant to joex question

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He biked it nice and easy so it wasn’t too obvious @NickBerry, clear admission :joy:

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Back on topic with @joex and his running. From the other thread about your tri running I do think your running is your weakest part of triathlon. You could do with a focus on getting that faster but I am not convinced what you’re suggesting is the best way. For your IM training I think what @Hammerer (and the others with similar advice) is your best way forward. However, before you start that you can swim and bike to maintain but focus on improving your run.

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Im guessing he wasnt just a 54min runner, cycles and saved 10minutes, more that he was a sub 40 runner, that was very unfit and overweight for the 54min, then cycled and lost weight so was closer to his actual pace.

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yes, purely - it’s quite likely - my running was presumably central aerobically limited, my heart and lungs couldn’t deliver as much oxygen to the muscles as they could use - so central improvements which cross over everywhere was sufficient to improve the run.

I stopped pretty much all competitive sport and even self challenging PB’s, exercising is purely about keeping the agoraphobia from the doors now, but I ran 17:43 5km off a couple of months of run training immediately after very good bike fitness, realistically there was probably another 30seconds there just from execution at that fitness. Oh an another minute from cheating shoes of course, that was in completely barefoot no foam shoes. On little running I could get up to about 70 minutes running fast, so the wheels came off on half marathon even, let alone longer.

I’m getting on for 22 months of running every day, but all of that is so relatively easy that I’m not fast at all at the moment, but it has made it clear that the benefits to me personally of adding volume to running isn’t that great over shorter distances, but I’m sure that I could be much quicker if I just went out an ran a half marathon now - indeed I occasionally did and low RPE and HR unfocused with roads and people and stuff and I was still not far off my race times of those days.

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sadly missed :slight_smile:

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