Mileage is BS as most of it was indoors.
Really went downhill after Cotswolds 113. Held on til Swansea 70.3
Run was (so far) 145 hrs – 1740km.
Should get to 1800km.
2023 was 2124km
2022 was 3025km (crazy, no wonder the bike suffered)
2021 was 1579km
Still a few months before my Strava subscription runs out but started looking at alternatives this afternoon. I really only need mapping to create routes so wonder if there is a decent free option?
Ridewithgps is more expensive than strava, although I don’t know if you can create routes without one.
Anyone able to point me at some options please? 
I’m guessing you don’t have a Garmin?
I do, suppose Garmin Connect is an option but I had a quick look and the grey road / blue background makes it very difficult to identify roads. It looked like it hadn’t been developed much since I last used it pre-Strava.
I guess I could use it in comjunction with google maps and it would work, if somewhat clunkily.
It’s not great but just about usable. The phone version might be slightly better depending on what you want? It can do suggested routes.
Considering all the data they’ve got and fact they’re a satnav company it should be better!
plotaroute is great for route creation, the paid version is good as it gives you more base maps like ordnance survey, and is only like 20 quid a year.
Komoot is decent for map building too. Then just drop the gpx into your garmin or whatever.
Plotaroute
Good for bike and run.
Oh I like the look of plotaroute. I’ve only ever used mapmyrun/mapmyride but I’ve just been looking at a run route where MrsF can throw me out of her car on the way to work on Friday and I run home.
Ride With GPS is free 
(at least, on a laptop)
I’ve never paid for it and create routes with it all of the time. They magically appear on my Garmin.
I also use EasyRoute on my phone to click click away. And I pay a fiver a year for that, for extra maps;
Thanks.
I only took a quick look at Ride with GPS and just assumed it was like Strava (ie you need a subscription to create a new route).
Will create the same route on that and plotaroute that I created yesterday on Garmin Connect and report back.
I quite like Komoot, I know there are paid for versions of it and not sure without looking what the finer details are.
It works pretty seamlessly though - straight to the Wahoo.
Komoot is probably the best alternative but will often send you down some stupid gravel tracks & it’s not on par with Strava.
Strava is worth the money, especially if you end up foobaring a tyre.
I don’t get this. 
How does Strava help with that?
Do you not need an internet connection for it to route you to the nearest train station?
I had the free Strava subscription once and couldn’t see any benefit in paying for it. I’m not into segments/KoMs. Routes are sorted by RWGPS, or just memory. Training metrics are way better (and cheaper!) on TrainingPeaks (40% BC Gold discount - obtained from a friend, then pretend you live in British Columbia to avoid the VAT / Sales Tax - worked at £72 last year)
I do group rides regularly with a proper cycling club 
. There are the types that always want to be a little different, think they’re cool, gona use Komoot like the cool kids & when they plan our rides with Komoot we always end up down some rocky gravel crapy track on our road bikes. Hence the potential for a foobar’d tyre.
Blame the user not the tool. As a responsible ride leader they should be checking the route. Strava doesn’t mitigate this either. Neither does garmin nor Komoot nor any other.
Ah!!!
Gotcha 
If I’m planning a ride, I tend to use Google Street View to see what the streets are like. As that’s embedded into the FREE version of RWGPS - which has Google Maps, Open Street Maps, Cycle Ways / Sustrans and loads of others, basically stopping short of a full OS Map.
@awildt - Id say the user is the tool here
If you’re exploring off-road then Strava’s heat maps are useful. Great for finding “secret” downhill trails deep in the woods in random patches of forestry. They’re also useful for finding the occasional top secret American military base somewhere in the sandpit.
Well Strava premium offer a free taxi ride home if you are stranded, although never tried it myself.
And it’s less than £72/yr.
Yes I blame the user, using Komoot when it fooks us every time. Check every inch of an 80 mile route, I don’t think so, better things to do. Strava doesn’t throw in gravel tracks when you tell it you’re on a road ride, Komoot does.
I’ve no doubt Komoot IS good for gravel rides.
