Sub-4 Marathon

or chuck a base layer under it. I know Stenard always runs in a compression top for the same reason.

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or train the nipples and toughen them up. Sand paper every day. Get all 50 shades of grey on them!

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I used to do that with my thighs so I could wear the shorts that serious runners wear. These days I just CBA, plasters are cheap enough.

Or some bodyglide?

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I’m a very hot & sweaty runner, so I’m a bit reluctant to try this, despite the fact I’ve heard of these magical wicking tops that actually make you cooler?!

I did canvas my clubmates and it seems an almost 50:50 split between using vaseline/bodyglide or using some type of plasters. One even said they found Gorilla tape was the only thing that’d stay on for the duration :grimacing:

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Good luck ripping gorilla tape off :rofl:

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He did say that part wasn’t enjoyable. It would sort out my hairy nipples though!

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Could give some woman’s ā€˜boob’ tape a go? :laughing:

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I almost always use plasters or a base layer for longer runs. Some t-shirts are worse than others for rubbing though.

For those worried about having the pace or about recovery between races, I have just looked at my past results and see that I first broke 20 mins (19:52) for 5km late Jan 2011. In late March that year I set a new 5km PB of 19:19 the day before running a 3:17 marathon PB. 3 weeks after this I dipped under 3:10 for another marathon PB and then 3 weeks after that dipped under 3:07 for yet another PB.

So 3 weeks recovery is definitely possible and to do well.

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Anyone else find themselves really doubting their ability and or desire to run in the middle of long runs? Seem to really struggle with my head after around 11/12 miles even if legs are still OK.

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Yep. Long road runs are boring as.

I can run for hours on the trails, but doing steady road stuff is another game altogether. Mind deffo starts to wander.

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Well, its my birthday next week and I made it very clear that I want bone conducting headphones so I can run to music. I may ask for them early so I can use them for Dorney 20 miles on Sunday.

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I get like that sometimes. Very often I’ll walk for a minute or two up a hill that I’m perfectly capable of running up, just to have a mental break.

I used to try and do on/offs for 800mtrs etc but found it too frustrating with junctions and stuff. So I just do fartlek stuff to break it up.

I find trails infinitely more interesting, even if the pace is slower because you’re in a ā€˜time on feet’ mentality and the scenery/ challenges change with the seasons.

With road running it’s more ā€˜let’s just get it over with’.

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Maybe it’s just the long solo road runs. I’ll try mix it up a little to see if it helps. I think I’ve had enough of marathon training now tbh

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Different routes on road is always a struggle for me. I also find I’m so used to trails now that even the sound of the cars wears me down. (but I hate running with music!)

Just regular sparky electrical insulation tape works well for me. Stays stuck on better than plasters.

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Surely long runs can be done on trails if you prefer, run for time rather than distance. The MP runs would be best on pavement, assuming that is what you are racing on.

I struggle with long runs too, usually end up running too fast to get them over with, which impacts recovery. Part of the reason why I experimented with a low mileage plan last time, max run of 16 miles. The idea was back to back days of 8+16 or 10+10 rather than one long 20-24 miler. Made it easier to manage for my schedule but I would say not optimal for preparing for the last 6 miles on race day, from a nutrition perspective as much as leg conditioning.

Music every time for me. Even still on my recent 10k and then x km at race pace runs, I dread the slow countdown till that faster portion of the run and thinking how am I gonna manage to do it.

It’s not just me that thinks that then! :laughing:

It’s good to hear its normal. I’ve split long runs like that before due to family commitments but agree that it’s not ideal.

I’m hoping that the cumulative fatigue is worth it once taper kicks in and that the benefit of running with others helps push me on to finish the race.

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