stop being an enabler then…
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Certainly less turbulence and, aside from other issues like stroke timing, without the hip rotation, there is a whole lot of lower back torture taking place…
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Club are fools select teams based on pbs and a spreadsheet, without looking at it realistically. Last year el nino didnt get picked for individual, just relay
despite being only .2 slower at 100 back . The kid who did the 100back had done 2 relays and finished 100free just 3 heats before, obviously 3 seconds off his pb. No common sense being used at all.
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Those splits! What a session. How did it feel?
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You’ve just reminded me why I did mine in the evening 
… hope it’s ok today
Seriously though, that pace is impressive. I think we are similar over 400m, but you were 15+ seconds faster per 100m here.
Expecting a solid 400m PB please in the next few days… perhaps will allow you a day or two for the sunburn to settle 
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Yeah agree, it’s like funkster diesel pacing. Really impressive to hold that quick for so long, and given how you got faster clearly knew that starting at ~1:37 was comfortable. Really mature and in-tune pacing.
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Id love to do a “truthful” study on elite athlete food choices, particularly during adolescence.
Mr Yee lived on Morleys (South Londons finest Chicken shop) , it was his go to post swim choice, and we’ve all read how Phelps in his prime ate McD’s most days just to get calories in. Its pretty obviously you arent getting 6000kcal + eating green leafs and vegetables.
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Yes some sun burn but not too bad, would have prefered an evening session but was worried about the water temp too & how I would do after being in the sun all day.
I’m 100% diesel, almost zero sprint. It’s comical how bad I am at 25 % 50m but can knock out 1000m no bother, same story on the bike.
A lot of the time improvement came from improving streamlining off the turns plus I got a bit more confident after the 60 mark.
No swimming today, arms need a rest 
. Then back to the 400 tomoz.
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Well done @Doka, really impressive 
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i might be mixing up memories in terms of the name dropping, but after one of my early(ish) long distance races, the team went for food and i cycled off with annie emmerson, jess draskau-petersson, Bella commerford (balylis), sarah gross, michelle parsons, mark mackay, wayne smith, phil mosely, martin yelling and others…to McDonalds…
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Tips for learning front crawl, for the over 80s?
I happened to have a conversation with my mother yesterday afternoon about swimming (once a week, BS) and lifting (weighted squats and overhead press). I advised her to space out the days lifting, and lift after swimming if she did it on the same day. Which made me chuckle inside. She has a gym coach and I don’t know her training but assume it’s light but perhaps age appropriate.
She wants to learn FS but doesn’t feel strong enough. I’ve advised technique is probably the issue, so also looking for coaches in the Deptford area with a keen interest in the extremes of AoS…
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tell her to just go to the local pool, I’m assuming Wavelengths, but Glass Mill and Greenwich, even Seven Islands (there’s a new one replacing that soon in Canada Water also) and book a batch of group lessons. My wife did it about 10 years ago at Eltham, she could swim, not properly though, and whilst she hasn’t troubled Katie Ledecky recently, she happily plodding up and down doing a fairly reasonable front crawl. One issue with FC though and older people who cant do it may be shoulder mobility.
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Unrelated to swimming, great to see you posting again JoeX
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Ditto
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and knee issues with breast stroke…
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BS arms, Fly/FC legs is a go to drill for triathletes for me to save the knees (because quite often they incorrectly initiate the sweep and whip via internal rotation from the knee rather than rotating the thighs from the hips). Could be a good method for older people to just swim
Unrelated but do any of you know the origin of Fly and that Fly masters swimmer are allowed to do a BS kick in competition, which isn’t allowed for anyone else (and actually slower)
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Many learnt that way; less stress on back; easier to catch breath; loss of hip mobility for dolphin. All helpful for the older cohort
Do I win??
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They are all factually correct, but the actual reason was Fly wasn’t a thing until 1950ish. During a BS race in the 1930’s a swimmer started recovering over water, he then developed the dolphin kick which was outlawed for BS, they eventually changed the BS rules closer to current day (elbows in BS have to remain underwater except for the last stroke before turn and finish) and created a new stroke. Some early fly swimmers may have never swam fly with a fly kick so they kept the rule that they may use a BS kick.
I’m not sure many would still be swimming that did it though so it wont be long before it is brought in line.
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We still have a few swimmers in our Masters section who do BR legs in FLY - particularly towards the end of longer races!
In theory they should probably scrap the rule in time as I’d imagine the numbers of people who swam under the old rules is now minimal. However I wonder if it’s still kept in place to ensure you don’t have a massive drop off in FLY entries among the older age groups who maybe can’t manage the undulation movements required to keep the stroke going for any length of time.
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Tried @Hammerer 's 12 x 100m in 1m30 off 1m40s today.
Didn’t go well.
Was blowing out of both ends by number 7 & then got cramp in my foot halfway through number 8, which I took as a sure sign to call time & try again another day.
@Doka … 100 of them at that sort of pace off 2 minutes … you monster, still can’t get over that
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