It is worth it if there is no other option. One type of set i do is say 50’s from shallow end, climb out (no knees on pooldeck) and dive back in. Or set of 4 x 25 with 4th fast from climb out and dive
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You’re joking aren’t you H. ?
When I have done even one rep hard I am too knackered to get out !
It always amazes me when I see my lad finish a rep and get straight out fresh as a bloody daisy…
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Perhaps he just wants it enough? And is willing to push himself hard enough to get it? 
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Maybe its different for you Triathletes, but personally, after finishing a reasonably hard rep, I may feel pretty tired whilst I stay in the water, but if I get out and stand up I feel absolutely knackered.
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Had a look at N&UEL masters membership. If it includes access to the pool then at 2/week it’s only £10 more than pool membership.
Masters swim times are punishing though. 06:30-07:30 so I’d have to be leaving the house at 05:00 and getting the train. I could consider moving to a late start working day so the evening sessions are more efficient but that would impact home life so…doesn’t look like I’ll join.
I’m just watching LCBs latest video, notice she’s wearing their caps.
Bit of a pointless post really.
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We’ve done a couple of NUEL galas. Considering their catchment and relationship with the LAC I’m surprised they aren’t doing better regionally but seem a nice club.
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in the army we did 25s (sometimes 33s) c;imb out, x number of press ups, dive in etc…
exhausting…
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Yep do those, get the kids to choose an exercise, burpees, pressups, squats. Usually a winter thing just to mix it up. They actually enjoy stuff like that. My idea of hell 
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I think the fact I feel sooo knackered if I have to get out of the water is a good example of the old dictum you are “fit for your sport”.
Being just a swimmer I am, for a 61 year old, pretty fit for my sport of swimming, but not so much for anything else, though of course my basic cardio helps me.
I’d have thought Triathletes would find getting out and diving back in again a bit easier ?
My anecdote about why I took up swimming in the first place amusingly illustrates these points.
Back in 1988, when I was about 24, a woman stalled her car outside the shop I worked in, but it’s battery was also flat… I went out to help push it so she could jump start it but she seemed to have little idea how to do that so we ended up pushing it for about 100 yards. I was absolutely buggered, and felt like that for ages after. So I decided I’d have to get fit, why not take up swimming I thought, I used to be pretty good at it at school ? So I did.
About a year later my neighbour needed his car pushing to jump start it and I was quite bullish about how easy I’d find it. But actually I was knackered again…
The difference was that within a few minutes I was fresh as a daisy.
but it lacks specificity…
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Any thoughts on two four week cycles:
A) Simple, regular twice a week
B) 1st week 5 consecutive days, weeks 2-4 1/week
So same number of sessions 8 per 4 week block
for what purpose?
Always straight to the point ejc, good question.
I’ll have to think about that.
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Partly seeing the 5 swim week as a recovery week, so no hard efforts in other disciplines.
Two per week doesn’t really move the needle. Would a week of high frequency cause learning/adaptations, followed by once a week - enough to maintain the gains?
Would it significantly increase injury risk?
Or does it not really matter; swings and roundabouts.
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None of the above and all the above…
or…it depends…
Usually, you need some consistency and progression, not only for the physiological development but also to retain the feel for and the balance in the water…
Two sessions might not move the needle, but that’s better usually than one, and often not better than three.
You might get more development from five, but there might be more risk…
If however the five is in a recovery week from other activities, then that might be useful…but is there value in five easy swims? that’s a moot point. why not an easy bike and run, also…
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LO had swimming tonight for an hour. They did a 10min warm up and then were told to swim as many laps as they could using whatever stroke they wanted.
It’s the first time they’ve done that kind of session. LO swam 52 laps for 1,300 mtrs with no tumble turns. 
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I might set this one next week, then go get a coffee
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That’s probably what her coach did. 
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You’ll fit in with some esteemed colleagues. I got set a 60 min continuous swim on a GB development camp when I was ~17.
Don’t know if it was high quality coaching, or because the new Leeds pool had only just been built and didn’t have heating yet. Either way there’s no Costa, or any form of civilization nearby
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did a 1500 this morning, through 400m in 6m14 and felt pretty good. My mind drifted off halfway through & started thinking about a report I have to write later, pace dropped off a little but salvaged a 23m37
Still haven’t completely ruled out aiming for a 22m30 one day before I get too ancient, it would be a lifetime PB but it feels like a big jump.
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1500m on 1:30 pace 
, that would be some going.
Do you use a beeper to tell you your on pace?
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