Incidentally vidoeing was banned at this year’s club champs, but it wasn’t at last years. I think it’s because the “safeguarding officer” got involved and they’re always OTT, but bearing in mind what Wavepower says I am a bit surprised none the less:
Photography by parents and spectators at events
(Wavepower p99) is “Most spectators – especially competitors’ family and friends – will want to take photos or videos at sports events”.
(p99) “parental consent is not required for photography by the public”.
(p98) “It’s usually not reasonable, practical or proportionate to secure consent for every participating child in order to take such images, or to preclude such photography on the basis of the concerns of a small number of parents”.
There were more than a few parents who weren’t happy about it, and a few that surreptitiously took vids anyway. And a good job too or I’d not have got a copy of my yearly race !
The other thing that was inconsistent, to put it mildly, was the club had an official photographer taking pics of just about everything !
I’m guessing this was the reason rather than any real risk.
Does the pool have a proper viewing gallery though or were parents poolside as in some club champs. We used a school pool for a tadpoles gala once with “permanent benches” poolside (no proper segregated gallery) and couldnt video due to school rules
It was hinted to me by the “safeguarding officer” that one or two parents had not wanted videos allowed. I’ll avoid commenting on if I think that’s bit selfish of them wanting to dictate to all the other parents how they should act…
The pool doesn’t have a viewing balcony but AFAIK that cannot be the reason as it was effectively a “private event” ?
Incidentally my boy broke his PB in the 50 back (only by 0.2 sec but he did do it ! ) but got DQed for his turn. It would have been instructive for him to see the video and learn from it, but, of course, there was no video…
A dictatorship is a small number of people dominating a large number of people, so you’re 180 degrees wrong there as it is certain there would be a big majority wanting to video their own kids. But please don’t just take my word for it:
(Wavepower p99) “Most spectators – especially competitors’ family and friends – will want to take photos or videos at sports events”.
i can help you it here…A dictatorship is a small number of people dominating a large number of people…without reference to others
absolutely certain because?
We live in a society where we have discovered that sometimes it is better to understand and respect the needs of the minority. As long as to achieve that we are not violating the (important) freedoms of all people. Most of society believes that…you know, that majority…
I know I havent seen it, but the main reason for Back Turn infringement is “not initiating the turn immediately after going onto the breast”
In practice this means as soon as you are on breast one or both arms simulatneously have to be brought back immediately to initiate the turn. Any glide into wall is a DQ, so arms basically have to keep moving until you flip. If you rotate short, trick is to slow down the arm pull, they are moving, just very slowly. This is fine. Certainly no kicking by this point either.
Another reason, less likely, is he wasnt on his back leaving the wall, but never seen that except IM fly-Bk turn.
There could be a very valid safeguarding reason for this if its indeed a parent, although my money is on the centre havening a blanket ban due to not having a viewing gallery.
I agree with you that is the most likely explanation, though I saw other swimmers doing that far more obviously than my boy ! One lad did a fantastic 100 Back, I never thought he’d keep it up after the first 25 but he did (more or less). I was so sure he’d get DQed I made sure I timed it so I could tell him just how fast he’d gone, but he didn’t (AFAIK) actually get DQed !
I am fairly sure it is not the centre’s diktats which caused this.
What I do not understand is if a child really is in so much danger if anyone takes his/her picture, why would a parent encourage them to take up competitive sport where that was bound to happen ? It makes no sense to me.
You don’t, take Wavepower’s (as quoted earlier). They aren’t parents so aren’t biased either way.
Inconsistency is common, some officials may be J2 or higher and more confident in calling, some just dont care, some are over officious. As a club event, if licensed they may only be timekeepers so not even aware of the rules and just let everything go. Unfortunately as a voluntary role and a real shortage of qualified people they are generally just happy someone is there.
Unfortunately many, too many coaches dont fully understand the rules. Many are teachers anyway (as they can then earn reasonable money teaching in swim schools) and coach based on “what they did”
Sad that SE allow teachers to coach. My gripe with the system.
