Exactly. I can up my stroke rate but find I am doing the same thing faster, which isn’t what I want. I need to change the timing of the stroke to have continuous propulsion and then up the rate.
Once I have IM Copenhagen out of thw way I will work this. Thanks I figured something simple.like this would be the answer.
6 beat kick, think of solars swim waltz 
sometimes the hand entry may need to be a bit deeper, to make sure you aren’t dropping elbow and setting up the catch without too much downward pressure on the water.
Again this is why I need to spend time on this. I do a 2 beat kick, the timing will need to change. I kick opposite foot to hand, never planned this it just what I found myself doing.
I don’t think i am dropping my elbow or pushing down. I found the 1 arm drill got my past pushing down. I found I was bobbing up and down realised that was the cause.
I will watch the video later, cheers.
Having recently started coached sessions again, two different coaches said I was losing time from a braking effect at the front of my stroke. I think it’s a result of trying to lengthen the stroke by reaching further forward. Always hard to translate into how it should ‘feel’ compared to how it ‘looks’ but I think what I’ve taken from it is that the catch-pull maybe shouldn’t be quite as far forward as I was trying to make it. Attempting to improve this seems to be increasing my stroke rate.
Sounds interesting but I am not clear what you mean.
A common fault would be gliding forwards/overextending the lead arm after entry (creating a dead spot in stroke) before initiating the downwards catch.
That’s what I thought but wanted to check.
As I mentioned above I am defo doing that and will work on it. I found ‘just’ increasing my stroke rate meant I was doing the same thing faster. Which obviously means a shorter dead spot of propulsion but it was still there. Until I sped up the stroke to the point of it just being short but shite amd inefficient.
Hence me wanting to remove it at current stroke rate by altering the rhythm, if that makes sense.
Yeah, not sure I’m clear what I mean either 
Running is so much simpler (apart from the injuries).
Does this make any sense:
If your hand/arm is in the water then there are 4 possibilities. (1) It’s in a streamlined position moving forwards through the water, (2) it’s pointing down moving forward through the water, (3) it’s stationary with respect to the water (so moving backwards at your swimming speed in relation to your body), (4) it’s moving backwards through the water (you’re pulling-pushing). I think I was trying too hard to get the catch as far in front of me as possible, so my hand/arm was going into that second situation whilst trying to start the catch, causing a braking effect. It was like I was separating the positioning of the hand/arm from the movement back towards me, and now I’m trying to make that all one thing (less of 2 and more of 3). That has speeded up my stroke rate without any intention on my part.
I think I’m going a bit faster as well 
I’m still dreadfully slow for the amount of effort involved 
Continuous Swimming i call it, but in Front Crawl (and back snd fly) there should be no pause or glide phase as it causes deceleration. Another term some use is Kayaking.
Think we had this discussion on here before, but this is a great explanation.
Hip driven just means your hips are going to rotate more allowing you to get into a more hydrodynamic position and lengthen your pull distance. Big mistake swimmers make though is misunderstanding this to mean they need to initiate the rotation with the hips first. Hips should still have stability. Rotation progressively increases more as you move from hips to shoulders though. Shoulder driven your hips are as stable as they can be and all rotation comes from upper torso. Allows for more torque
Who is that from h?
Brent Hayden, its kind of what i was getting at before , rotation is driven from the reach (shoulders) always. The bit i didnt explain was you swim with hips more flat for sprints but rotate the hips more for distance.
That’s how Gary Hall Snr describes it. Whoever he is?
I am unclear on his background in swimming also
I get this, and I haven’t read all the replies, but wasn’t @pacha 's first question how to stop the dead point at the front of the stroke? If the shoulder extension drives the hip rotation, don’t you end up gliding to a certain amount? Maybe that’s not a bad thing and not the same as a dead spot?
I think I read somewhere a while ago that swim brand marketing photos were doing no favours as they love to show a long arm extension out the front, and this is not what you should be aiming for. But I may just me making that up.
not if you do it properly; idea is you enter in front of shoulder and extend the arm slightly downwards and forward whilst you rotate the palm inwards slightly so that you don’t pull down on the water to get that EVF and only put pressure on the water when the arm is vertical and pulling back. the point is that the hand is always moving; never just hangs out front which is the “dead spot” or “glide”
that photo, whilst just a photo, looks like hes hanging out front as he is close to catch up drill judging by the left arm which suggests that. I would say he should already have the arm vertical with the left arm in that position (give or take)
Visualisation counts as training, right? And therefore so does dreaming.
Dreamt last night I had an 80s style stereo setup on deck, blasting out Metallica/MoP whilst I upset people with 1:20 100m reps.
Guess it’s time to get back to the pool 
I was working out my “go2nats” plan yesterday but had stinking cold all week so it stops there for a few more days.
First month is basically lot of 25s holding 15strokes so that i can get to stage of swimming a 3min 200 @ 48spm. Hopefully by Xmas I will be upping the SR holding DPS and the times will tumble. 15spl at 70spm and 4secs per turn->5m is ~1:06pace.
So easy on paper
Actual footage of one of my swim sessions 
