I do rotate and then all me sinks. Using glutes and hamstrings doesn’t really help, a little sculling and flutter kick (or sculling with my arms a bit deeper) keeps me up on the water. I have no problem keeping my legs up swimming and the faster I go the easier it is.
I’m pretty much the same.
Although I can’t float, trying the floating drill was a bit of Eureka moment to understand the minimal amount of kick required to stay level. It really wasn’t much. So that became a good exercise to start a session (bit like Thorpe’s float drill as per Hammerer).
I guess the other thing with the float drill is just a mental thing to engage core and glutes and then finally kick to get level - should do more of this as I definately ‘sag’ in the middle when I get tired which probably has all kind of knock on effects!
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Unrelated to anything on here, but still swimming related …
Was just shopping for some more anti-fog stuff and was tickled by the first item in the sponsored products panel:
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Anti fog = new goggles. Or I just look like an idiot constantly shaking my head to sluice the water around my ageing goggles, which is the norm 
I have used the soap trick a few times; give them a wipe with it, then give them a very quick rinse. It seemed to work okay last week for about 30 mins/ Luckily the soap at the gym is pretty mild.
I’m trying to be an eco-triathlete and not binning the goggles init
Seriously though, I find this stuff works really well, particularly for OWS. Even in new goggles I found early season races would involve some fogging regardless of what protocol I used to prep the goggles.
Then someone lent me some of this magic stuff and haven’t looked back! Been on the same set of goggles for a couple of years now (although don’t swim that regularly)
What is the product? All I see is the Maldini mask.
So Main Set today of: 10x100 on 10s RI into 5x100 ankle band on 30s RI. Some upping of cadence for the ankle band set!
Averages: Full Stroke 1:35, no legs 1:40.
My kick is useless isn’t it; but body position probably not too bad?
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Yeah, I’d say those band intervals are solid. My kick adds no propulsion, but my legs would be dragging along the floor without a soft flutter to keep them up. When I’m back swimming regularly, I’ll give the same kind of thing a go
The more momentum you have using the bands, the easier it is! So if you find it really hard, maybe start with big paddles, then fingers ones, then none… @Poet maybe?
With paddles I’d probably be about the same as full stoke!
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Yes. I’d agree with that.
Just done my swim.
With an 800m straight through 
♂
my bloody pool won’t let you use paddles (or fins) unless you’re in an organised swim (ie the local swimming club or lessons) 
Never had that issue. Have you tried wearing bright speedos, walking up to the Lifeguard, licking your finger…placing it on your abs making a zizzling sound? That let’s them know you’re all about the organised swimming.
Try it & let us know how you get on.
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haven’t tried it for a couple of weeks… will report back.
Saying that, most of the lifeguards are late teenage girls, so it might not be the wisest strategy unless I want a LOT more gym time… 
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They do say women like men who make them laugh 
but not so keen on the ones that make ‘em cry…
If you do try that approach can you video it
crikey, we’ll need to rename this place TTinder
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I will see your 800 and raise you 2x 750. Goal was sub 25 combined. The first one was 12:40, so had my work cut out; went through halfway on second rep in 6:14…that was a hard last 375m! 12:40 & 12:13.
Then came what we all know is the hardest session: 10 mins in the steam room at 40 degrees. That really wiped me out!
That’s just wrong!
The maths 
I picked it because it’s a triathlon distance - albeit a rare one these days!