Swimming for Hammers and Spoons

…and I hope you’re not trying to compare a bunch of 40+ triafletes against these fish?!

Whenever I see these youth squads train, I am always impressed…but then I think, ‘let’s see where 90% of you are when you’re 45’

Guy we used to live opposite has kept up with it though; he’s about 3-4 years older than me and I think he medalled in the M45 Butterfly at the Euros a couple of years ago!

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most of them will be gone by 16, some do their level 1 swim award and either go teaching or coaching alongside the senior coaches! we lose a lot of girls around 14. Their hormones are all over the place with puberty etc so they a start hitting big pbs and being very interested as they fly along, then they come through the other side, everything settles, body shapes change and suddenly they plateau and give up. Obviously if they persevere and adapt they start improving again but its hard at the time of life. In tri we have a similar problem as they go from T3 to youth A at 14/15 and basically race distances double overnight 8k bike / 2.4k run to sprint distance and it goes from a fun enjoyable fast sport over in under 30 minutes to a true endurance sport of over an hour and they lose interest again.

Well, there’s a lot going on for kids at that age 13-18, not least the pressures of school and life in general. To keep at sport at a good level is hard; there’s only so much coaxing (or pushing) parents & coaches can do.

i just try and keep it as fun as possible and they generally return. Some of the swim coaches in particular are so pushy and put way too much pressure and emphasis on hitting arbitrary times and pb’s. I just think if they are there, engaged and not distracting others or messing about then we have won most of the battle. Very few ever make sport a profession so its about keeping them in sport for life.

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Hawaii might be, Kona isn’t

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Are you sure your name isn’t pedant?! :grinning:

Just pointing out that the emotional attachment has already been broken.

When did it move to Kona, 1981? So I guess that’s as long ago as most people can remember, and before many triathletes doing Kona were born…being pedantic :rofl::wink:

So…I’ve just tried to buy some winter training aids for swimming from some well known triathlon sites…OUT OF STOCK :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:
Now, either we are not giving people credit and they are training and buying training aids…or…the retailers aren’t restocking as they don’t sell enough :rofl::joy:

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WTA???

Look mint!

Would be much more useful if they gave real time data for OW swimming,

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I don’t really see the point. It gives no useful extra info than a tempo trainer from what I remember reading (or setting your Garmin to vibrate - issue is you can only do this to the nearest whole second whereas a tempo trainer can be done to tenths).

All its data is based on your latest push off, so it’s only giving you historical info. At least, that’d what I remember reading a few months ago when it was first mentioned. Plus, goggles deteriorate fairly fast. Investing in such tech is a “consumable” seems a bit of a strange approach

But people on the Garmin thread going through 3 Garmins in 9 years isn’t?

Or changing your phone every two?

Tech is now a consumable. Even at $199

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If I only wore one pair of goggles, they’d be screwed by chlorine within 6 months. I normally get about a year as I have a few pairs in rotation. I don’t want to be binning tech because the £15 goggle part are no longer usable when the tech is still working fine

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What goggles do you wear that break so easily?

I’ve been rotating 2 pairs of Predator Flex for 3 years now.

I’ve had one Aldi pair for 18 months that are still good, but I ordered a pair of Kayenne yesterday.

I’ve only ever replaced goggles when I’ve snapped the strap or the lenses are too scratched to see clearly (as in this instance)

I know fit is very personal but Decathlon do some great cheap goggles.
Kalenji & Speedo

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They don’t break. They just fog to the point of being practically unusable. I’ve tried various brands, and use anti fog every now and then. Eventually they reach a point where within a few hundred metres I’m struggling to see. If I was on a single pair of goggles for all swims, that’d be well under a year

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Yep I’m lucky if I keep goggles 6 months

It drives me mad - I can’t work out why it should happen but I have the same problem, even if I give them a good clean I get in the pool and become very ‘misty eyed’.