Gym pool going back to no restrictions and time slots next week.
Could be great or could be carnage.
I’ve quite enjoyed having a set number of people in a lane. Haven’t enjoyed the 30 minute slots though
Club swim, enjoyable and hard but no technique take aways. One of the other swimmers asked me if I thought I had gotten faster with these sessions and I had to deflect somewhat. I’ll ask the coach for more technique next week, see what he says.
How realistic is it that I just found 3 seconds per 100m by slightly changing my hand entry and reach on 1 side?
I was over-reaching on my right side and think my hand came up so focussed lower/shorter reach, fingers down, faster catch today and after I focussed on it I was genuinely 3-4 sec per 100m faster but unsure if it was due to other influences. Could 1 small thing make such a difference?
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Perhaps as you were focusing on your technique this helped other areas?
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Maybe balancing the leg-splay a little (oo-err, where’s Ron?)
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Swimming is all technique yet a number of tri coaches (and some swim as well) think it’s all about standing at the end of the lane with a stopwatch shouting “good jawb”
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Sure, but what was the change and what was the correction?
If it was an overglide and now you have a faster stroke rate that could explain it. But without external validation it would be hard to say what actually happened.
I’m not usually the kind of guy to piss on someone’s chips but check out this clip from 1:50 onward…
Apparently the guy did 12hrs like this.
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I’d say that’s as much butterfly as speed walking is running.
Easily. IMHO. Depending on your general standard and the magnitude of the movement change (if you are swimming 1.10/100s and it is a subtle change then not likely 
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Broadly if what you have said is accurate then you have actually made 2 changes.
- no longer applying braking during the stroke (pushing the hand up and forward - the ‘stop sign’)
- engaging the water earlier in the stroke a way that is positive for your forward propulsion
Easily worth a lot of time for a low level/intermediate swimmer
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I reckon if I did 12 hrs of butterfly I would easily do 150m maybe 200m
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Having discovered this weekend that speedwalkers do 18min 5ks they’ve got new respect from me!
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That music! Make it stop
Edit, had to Google it. Laser dance, humanoid invasion, 1986. Why just why?
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This week was only 2 swims. I am regularly holding 16 SPL with the occassioanl one 15 or almost 15, no slippage to 17 anymore. This morning just changed it up a bit and moved the tempotrainer to 52 bpm and did 2x 4 50m at that trying to hold 17 SPL. Soon slipping to 18 and on the last one it really went the a couple of 200m paddles until finished session. They’re only 45min.
@Hammerer I am happy to keep the DPS sessions going but how do I progress this? For the next couple of weeks it’s going to be x5/wk and hopefuly for a lot of the school summer hols I can do more than x3 week. I’m not in a rush to move on at all, just wondered if there’s other sessions to complement these (w/u, 16 x 25m DPS, n x200m paddles). As I mentioned before I am wanting to improve and fitness for racing can wait for next year. With OWS and generally x3 pool swims I can do a couple of sprint tris. If I am taking the mickey with this remote coaching just say so, I went get the hump.
We need a TT swim clinic on Kona weekend!!!
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So the trick around the 25s is that when you are holding say 17SPL you increase SR to around 70SPM gradually whilst holding the same stroke per length. This will increase speed. Or think 17strokes holding 22seconds off 30, increase pace to 20 but hold the SPL. If you are at target race pace say 17strokes 20seconds off 30 then do 50s of 35strokes 40seconds 100s 70strokes 1:20s etc. Numerous ways to develop depending of goal. The main set I’d vary, some sprinting, some steady, some target race pace, but all depends in when the goal race is and training phase.
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Thanks a lot 
. Will read again tomorrow, have a think, then a proper reply.
I was volunteering at club lake swim this morning. Bobbing about on saftey kayak I enjoyed watching the variety of stroke techniques. A lot of people enter the water with really high elbows next to their head. I’m sure they’d do better trying to enter almost at full reach.
OK so it took more reading and thnking.
This year I may do another sprint or two but no plan to change swim training for them. I can swim 750m in a relaxed manner. I do plan to do an IM next year so will obviously have to be fit for that. No point in having a goal time or worry about swim specific fitness this far out IMHO.
I am able to consistently hold 16 SPL now and happy to move the tempo trainer up (repeatedly but as skill allows) doing 25m repeats, off 30s. I will progress as you suggest once I am coming in at 20s and hold for 25m then 50m and so on. How much SPL slippage is acceptable, if that makes sense? During the holidays, as I can swim more, I was thinking x2 of these sessions, one sprint, x2 steady aerobic mixing swim, pull, paddles, as life allows also one OWS, which again is just steady for distance. Does that sound like a plan? Each pool session is currently only 45 mins.
Asked if I could use the fins with the kick board as it was quiet, was told yes, started putting them on, was told no. Halfway on the return length another guard comes over and tells me I’m going too slow for the fast lane…
Six others in the lane now so I put on the paddles and pull and passed them all every 66ms
Switched to just pull 100s and held 1:40-1:45s, then 400s at 1:48 felt very easy.
Then celebrated Peaty’s gold by massacring the breaststroke at 3:00/100, booyakasha! 
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So…without a load of acronyms and jargon, how can an adult onset swimmer drop from 1:30/100m to 1:20/100m ?
Just swim more?
Hit the gym?
Or do I have to some videos on YouTube where they draw weird lines and angles on peoples bodies and tell me about EVF, etc etc…BORED 