Still getting back into swimming after my wrist injury, and haven’t done a fast 400 in years, but this was my post-daughter PB for 1500 the week before my wrist flared up. I’m definitely an AOS swimmer.
I think FORM works out the stroke count accurately, and appears to judge the stroke rate accurately after ignoring the push off phase.
with a 3m push and glide, yes…
I think I have his first swim lesson planned 
I knew you’d say that to that 
I’m only swimming 20m per length.
Out at the flags every turn.
I’m guessing my OW stroke count is the same, which is why I’m slower …
ditto…
The one bit im good at. Push and glide, get several meters past the flag each length and normally make up distance on thr fret ahead.
Ledecky init
Especially on a kick set…
Everyone is different… I never kicked in my life. I have a stroke rate of 24 for both my channel swims , or the over 850 triathlons. It’s about the technique that suits you. My great friend @Hammerer will vouch for this. Get help from someone like @Hammerer with the focus on YOU.
think what you might have done had you kicked…
oh and @Hammerer is alright…possibly not the best coach i’ve worked with, but he’s ok…
Your two kind 
I would have been slower 
. I had this proven in a swim tank in the university of California in the 80’s. I still don’t kick and at 73 can still swim under the hour for an Ironman swim… everyone is different
And we both sat and watched as El Nino left us for dead in the lake FFS.
He asked the other day when we would go to lake and swim with “Magic Mike” again
Shame its become corporate BS down there now. Feel like a customer last year, not part of a community.
I swim at Buckland Lake now- The SHAC- the friendliest and safest lake I’ve been to- and that’s about 40+ in the UK. Not only that, no “induction “ fee, showers and clean changing rooms, fresh food - even vegan food- and no yobs on inflatables etc.
Your all too kind…
Absolutely…
Like all skills, it needs learning over time…
How smooth is your swimming?
Ledecky: hold my chocolate milk
