The guy who runs it is part of my wife’s running club. Apparently he makes a living out of it, good luck to him
But
I live less than a mile from Caldecote. If you think I’m paying 30 notes, to run round the lake I run round every other day, multiple times, for a medal and a time recorded by a geezer with a clipboard and a stopwatch then you’re mistaken.
If you do find yourself entering one then let me know and I’ll PM my address and you can pop round for a sausage sanger and a beer.
Cheers. I last run there in summer 2011 - it was a last min entry gearing up for a longer ultra a month or so later. I was staying at my folks at the time.
I had a nice time. Ran round then chilled out on the grass verge watching other people run round. Very laid back
I enjoyed it at the time though I could see how the novelty would ware off running round and round lol… I think the prices have increased considerably!
From briefly looking at this, I’d say you need to be upping the amount of time running to nearer 4.5 - 5 hours per week if your wanting to see some tangible results.
That’s the plan. 
| Week | Run Hrs | ||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 3h 54m | ||||||||||||||
| 2 | 3h 21m | ||||||||||||||
| 3 | 4h 9m | ||||||||||||||
| 4 | 4h 38m |
Update
| Week | Run Hrs | |||||||||||||
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| 1 | 3h 54m | |||||||||||||
| 2 | 3h 21m | |||||||||||||
| 3 | 4h 9m | |||||||||||||
| 4 | 4h 38m | |||||||||||||
| 5 | 4h 39m | |||||||||||||
| 6 | 4h 44m | |||||||||||||
| 7 | 5h 5m | |||||||||||||
| 8 | 1h 3m | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 4h 31m | |||||||||||||
| 10 | 2h 10m | |||||||||||||
| 11 | 4h 4m |
I had 7 weeks of consistency running 5/6 per week as planned then some real life intervened and it all got a bit patchy which I’m still trying to rectify but work/applying for work/double duties at home are pretty stressful.
Tuesdays club runs have got steadily harder as planned, last night was basically one hour at or above threshold HR (hilly 5:20/km) so maybe too hard for maximising benefits. Thursday track has been tough, but due to family I usually miss warm up, warm down, or the whole session. Long run is not consistent at all, it’s just making up whatever easy volume I’ve missed during the week so sometimes it’s 30mins or 1h45.
Bike is ancillary but when I’m running consistent I bike consistent, and when I’m not I’m not. Minimum 30mins max 3hrs15 in a week.
No lifting in four weeks, no swimming this year.
This is week 12 of 2022 and I don’t feel any fitter, or any faster. And my small steady weight loss in the first two months disappeared in week 8. 
I need to keep my chin up somehow and return to consistency without going mental. Spring has sprung, sun rising earlier so maybe earlier workouts will help.
Any ideas?
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Also, injury risk?
I’m feeling some kind of tightness under my right buttock on hard days only
I’m feeling some kind of strain below the belly button I’ve never felt from running. Kind of like I’ve been doing core work instead of running, or like I’ve been running with a full bladder, if that makes sense. Again on hard run days only.
How did you measure your 2nd threshold?
This would be threshold HR which iirc I took from 10k race and 10k run legs. Will check.
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Looks like I set my HR threshold in Jan 21 from a MaxHR on a PB 5k in Training Peaks, 167bpm but I don’t think my Fenix uses that.
Fenix tells me lactate threshold is 171bpm, 5:27/km I’m ignorant as to how it determines that.
Do you think it’s worth trying that new HRV method to determine LT1, LT2 and train to those? I am interested but after I’ve set my goals I try to avoid the techie aspects and “just get on with it”
It’s just that seems low, if you can hold that and above for an hour. Typically its somewhere between best effort 5k and 10k but obviously most of the time without lab testing its a guestimate. Its probably worth having a look at the HRV stuff, maybe just to give an idea. There are other ways, maybe try the Frinkle book method, do a 30min best pace run and take the average HR from the last 10 minutes. When coaching I use WKO5 so get a “power curve” , obviously its not power unless you have a stryd but a series of points of various times, speeds and HR can help give a more accurate reflection
You mean this is a slow pace?
Yes, it’s slower than last year, and that’s what I mean about feeling unfit and slow. Although yesterday was a more mountainous route (includes solo warmup) and I am still 6-7kg heavier than at the London Tri. I had to take loads of walking break on the last hill.
If I was to guesstimate, I’d say I could do a flat 10k at 5:20/km 165 bpm
Last summer I was 5:00/km for 166bpm at the London tri, although that data looks to have several artifacts in it probably 161bpm.
It’s most certainly a HR below your Lactate Threshold, unless you are very highly trained. Its going to be higher than the Aerobic Threshold though so in that area that’s basically adding a lot of fatigue but without considerably more benefit. So either slow down a bit or speed up a bit over shorter timescales
if you can do an hour at or above threshold (assuming LTP2) then you are cracking on nicely…but i am assuming this isn’t the case…and you are training in no man’s land…
Ae the track sessions or tuesday sessions coached? What is the plan? Where is the progression?
if you miss the warm up for track, is it wise to do the session?
where’s the plan? Where’s the progression?
Do you mean below (hamstrings) or in (glute max). Possibly because you are working. Sports massage with a decent masseur to release tension around and identify issue.
See a doctor
I was dead like I’d just done a 40TT, or 10k race which I see as confirmation I was at my limit, at my threshold, but I’m happy to take advice to verify my threshold HR.
Tuesday is not coached, it’s groups lead by some aiming for a target pace for a one hour session.
There are breaks for people to catch up so it’s not truly continuous and I see this as my opportunity for high aerobic or tempo efforts, but they are an hour long so I think threshold is too hard. Happy to be told otherwise though.
Progression has been moving up 20s per km each month so far; 6:00>5:40>5:20
Thursday track is coached, pace can be aligned to a goal race pace but at the moment I’m aiming for what I think I can do above threshold for the whole repeat and whole session.
Progression, I could align these to a target half mara now I’ve been fairly regularly doing intervals for a few months.
Missing warmup - I agree. I’ve started to think this which is why I’ve missed some sessions altogether unless I can be there for the start at least. Finishing early if I have to is acceptable I think.
Understood. I’ve prioritised (or tried to) weekly volume over long run volume, so that’s where the progression/plan lies.
I’m at a cross roads to continue with progressing run volume or reintroduce swim/lift, increase bike.
I’ll call my GP.
good luck with that 
Even I can’t get through on the phone to mine and we’re married.
I was hoping you’d all say something like, it’s an impending groin strain, or, fat people get that.
But no, now I have to worry about bowel cancer and knob flu. Cheers guys. 
Take two Wurthers and start watching Pointless
Didn’t one of MarkieR’s mates have that?
I waited 3 weeks for a phone consultation to be referred to the Asthma specialist i asked to see at the start. The referral, yep ended up another phone consultation where they just chucked a preventer at me rather than checking if these chest problems could potentially be something else. I might ask to get some T patches over the phone next so i can come in the top 20000 at London Marathon this year
several…
both are necessary depending on objective…
what is the objective?
over what distances, reps, intervals?
which is why threshold is perhaps an inappropriate term…that you are tired suggests that you worked hard, not that you can sustain LT2 for an hour of running…
Good
