Cheers (both!)
Only milder for me. And one night - long day/evening ride, camp late on, cycle home/back to car/train etc a short distance the following day.
The next one up is rated down to -1° limit and 4° comfort, but is double the size when packed!
I think it compresses down to 8L (probably more) which would be fine for my bar bag 
The problem with these, is I cannot find local stockists to see the item in person 
Personally if you’re only going to use it occasionally, I’d put the money into a warm jacket and sleep in that, and have a cheaper/lighter bag. A jacket has more utility when you on the move.
You can’t fight or walk off the hill in a sleeping bag. Everyone’s mileage will vary!
It’s for bikepacking
Maybe twice a year, and only for one night.
I’ve a Packable Rapha down jacket and a Packable synthetic Patagonia one, too. Both pretty much the same. I was gonna sleep in either of them (as I’ve done before)
I run warm sleeping, but an extreme comfort limit of 7C does seem keen!
No chance of sending it back once used, even as a test, too.
A silk sleeping bag liner is a good bet too, adds some warmth (though I’ve never been sure how much) and if you’re sleeping in clothes you’ve worn that day it’ll keep any mud or similar from getting on the bag - liner is much easier to wash.
Cheers folks!
I’ve gone for the 7° bag and will see how I get on with that during my “test”.
A liner can add 3-5° so that’s a good option, too.
Interesting news about Komoot. I know there was a bit of love and hate in here for it as a planning tool.
He doesn’t rate its future and probably an expensive subscription.
I’ve never used it TBF and Strava routes seems enough for me and at home I’ve got OS Maps
Strava routes are whack, bruv.
RideWithGPS all the way 
Just another app, Strava is enough for me
Just another app?
Is mans down there plotting routes on his phone?!
Laptop hooked up to the big monitor all the way!!!
Nah, map and compass is where it’s at 
All of me bits have now arrived … but it’s dark.
Gonna get her spruced up in the AM 
And instead of swimming, I messed about with this first thing 
I wanted the Ortlieb 4.1L fork packs a bit closer to the seat stay, but my heels kept clipping them, so I’ve had to move them further back 
Kit list;
Handlebar bag: sleeping bag, liner and down jacket. Lots of room left for more “stuff” too.
Top tube bag: Accessible food, inhaler, etc. just stuff I’ll need whilst riding.
Frame bag: Two inner tubes, Stans 3oz sealant, battery pack (cables to run neatly to head unit and lights), phone, spare food, wet wipes Less accessible things, but heavier.
Underneath Bottle: More spares. DynaPlugs and pump mounted to cages on non-visible side.
Ortlieb Mini Rack: tent, ground sheet, mattress, pillow. Secured with Voile straps.
Fork packs mounted to rack: JetBoil, wash kit in one. Spare clothing in the other. Just light things.
Chain is currently being waxed and I’m aware the bike is filthy 
That’s an impressive setup 
That looks super neat for all that stuff. I’m assuming pretty spendy, piece for piece though, as it all looks to be super lightweight, decent quality kit.
Looks great though.
Cheers folks
I’m really pleased with how it’s turned out. The bits have been accumulated since last year, so not one big bang, which has softened the blow. The rack I also use for commuting.
Just need the clocks to go forward now for lighter evenings to ride into for a test overnighter …
Cost breakdown;
Rapha top tube, frame bag (and I’ve the seat post pack, too) were all second hand. So not too much (£200 ish?)
Handlebar bag was £155.
Down jacket I already have for casual, so does that count
Sleeping bag (sea to summit spark 7°) was £265.
Battery pack, spares, food etc - I can’t count them, as they’re needed for general rides and mainly my daughter (battery pack) when out and about 
Ortlieb rack was £85 from Congleton Cycle Store (this is local to me, and they price match online!)
Fork packs were £100 from there, too.
That bloody Knog Blindr rear light, which is a proper pannier one, was £46 
AlpKit Elan bivvy second hand £60
(Or AlpKit Soloist second hand £60)
AlpKit Brukit and Gas £60
AlpKit cloud base, second hand £20
Decathlon Pillow £5
Garmin, front light etc don’t count as I use them
Elsewhere.
Bloody wolf tooth chainring (38?) was £75
And the Sunrace 46T cassette was £25 second hand.
I bought those especially to be lower geared for the Dales Divide
So about £1k for the kit all in
Good job the event was free to enter
also known as - destroying their margin.
I don’t mind people doing this at the branded shops - let the corporates suffer. Even though it kills the staff bonus because the sales margin doesn’t reach target. But please don’t do this at independents - literally taking food off their table.
It’s CycleStore - they’ve an online shop and shipping warehouse, too.
Last time I went in, I didn’t even ask - the guy looked himself and knocked a fiver off for me
I don’t do it at Rick Green’s - as I nip up there a
Lot when I’m missing “a bit” and they always have it in. Pinarello shop here is utterly garbage for spares and bits. They never have any consumables in stock.
They only want Pinarello’s in the store. Leave them to their own narrow-minded view.
That’s a bit unfair - this is capitalism though, no?
I know you’re close to the situation because of your partner’s position, but the person making the sale has made that decision. I’m not trying to be facetious here, but just making a point - but are these same bike shop owners and workers buying all of their vegetables at a premium price from the local farm shop, or are they going to Tesco or Lidl? Are they paying for their furniture to be repaired by a local craftsman or chucking it in the bin and getting a new one from Ikea?
I’m sure everyone, deep down, would love to see the independents and the ‘real people’ prosper. But reality kicks in, and we’re all looking after our own bottom lines. I’m not saying that’s right, as it totally continues to feed the beast.
