Training - What Training?!

No, its one of the things I miss most

https://www.parkrun.com/about/start-your-own-event/

Says…

Sorry we can’t help. Yet.

At the moment we’re not accepting requests for parkrun events in any new countries. So if your country isn’t already listed here, sadly we can’t help at the moment.

The reason is that, while we at parkrun would like as many people to take part as possible, protecting the essence of our movement is really important to us.

To do this properly, we need to make sure the framework is right for an event to happen, and that the financial support is in place. That takes considerable time and effort, both in the prospective country and for ourselves to support that new country. We’re a very small team, and we simply don’t have the resources to set up lots of countries at once.

We realise this might disappoint, but we’d rather be honest and up front about the challenges we face in growing parkrun internationally. And please do remember it’s not necessarily a no – just a ā€˜not yet’!

Been like that for 2 1/2 years. I would be happy to start a Park Run, even looked at the logistics of it, and contacted the mfg of Parkrun’s timing equipment

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That’s kinda the point though isn’t it? You’re not running at 3:40/km for the pace but for the effort that the pace requires, and it’s much easier to maintain this constant effort on a track. Just like it’s easier to maintain X watts for Y minutes on the turbo than on the road (with ups and downs and junctions)

I’m not sure?
If I want to run a half marathon in 1:17:21, it ain’t gonna be 53 laps of a track, is it?

It’s going to have ups and downs.

Now, I’m going to run faster downhill and slower uphill. By doing intervals/reps on the mean streets of Cheshire, I’m going to feel what running at 3:40/km feels like for any given incline.

Ive not been on a track since my last county meet, back in 1999.

I only use an indoor bike for active recovery these days.
Efforts are done up hills.

If you can’t remember a session, it’s too complex.

KISS.

6km road run slammed in between drying coats of paint. I was on my feet/knees/ladders for 15hrs yesterday and today and tomorrow won’t be much better.

I really struggled and held 5.02/km. Sunday’s 10km is not looking good. :frowning_face:

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No, of course not (unless it’s a track race), but you’d take that into account when planning the session or setting a goal for a race.

It’s not about being ā€˜easier’, it’s about it being consistent and eliciting the required response, and being able to repeat it or progress it and reducing the controlling factors to a minimum so you know if you ran further at the same pace or the same distance faster, it’s because you’re getting faster, not because you didn’t have a dog walker in the way or managed to cross a road without stopping, or had a tailwind up the hill this time etc.

I don’t run at 1/2 mara pace on the track (or in training at all really) but this would be done in similar conditions if I really wanted to test myself before a race, however you should be able to set a target based on other performances, and would take race routes into account when you did this.

Agree about the complexity of sessions

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Whilst I completely agree with doing training in conditions you race in, and there’s not much point going to a track for intervals (although for me that’s more about the surface being faster and the bends unrepresentative). But you don’t want to be doing 3:40/km on any particular incline, you want even effort, not even pace, if it’s harder up hill you don’t want to put in more effort to get it up to the pace, nor back off when you’re going downhill, just good even effort.

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Fair points @JibberJim & @iower

Also, @robh - I take it all back :roll_eyes:

I stepped off the train into wind and hail, so went and did 8*400m on a treadmill, using the virtual track :face_with_hand_over_mouth::joy:

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Absolute opposite for me, not a clue with miles. K’s is just so much easier, although I’m not 50 yet…

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Today was the 8th day of over 10km each day running, the warmer weather is certainly help me run more. over 200km already in Feb, so I looked at last years Feb, it was 285km, actually my largest month ever, so I still need to carry on averaging 10km a day to beat it… with the extra day, maybe I should go for 300km for the month. Still it’s all been easy running, so it’s certainly slower than last year - when I didn’t have a lazy Jan (284km Jan last year, 220km this year) I also actually did some commuting and other riding last year so overall was quite a lot fitter.

Still I’m feeling fitter than I was in December.

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It’s just been cold, dark and wet here for a while now.
I’m getting a bit annoyed with running/cycling in it.

My rides for 2020 are on a 1:1 wash:ride ratio

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Try Edinburgh, net downhill.

Or Jersey, 4 miles of downhill at mile 8: quads in pieces.

I am proper bored of this rubbish weather now. I just want to go out without getting blown around, drenched or freezing. Where the heck is spring?!

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I don’t mind the cold, or a bit of rain, or some wind.
But this feels like it’s been three weeks of constant grime.

Mind you, I’ve had a few nice Wednesday 4hr rides

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Definitely this. Key interval sessions are always done on the track for me. For exactly the reasons described, you can lock into a pace and maintain it. Maybe with two maths degrees it helps, but I just know what I’m trying to hit each 200. If anything, the mental arithmetic is a nice distraction. I do the same in races! I only hit lap at the end of each interval…turn off autolap.

I disagree with @Poet about lumps being harder. I find they give respite. Holding 3:45\km or faster for a long interval on the track is a lot harder than on the road. The terrain gives you mental stimulation as well as there generally being sections of road that are just easier to hold pace for whatever reason (a descent, the surface, the wind, whatever). The analogy with the turbo is true for me. If I can hold HIM power for 4x20min chunks on the turbo with 10min recoveries, I know I can hold that power for the full duration of a HIM bike leg. The turbo is way harder because it’s relentless.

A key track session my coach often sets is 2 or 3x of 3k at say 4:30/km pace straight into 4:00\km pace, repeat. So 10-15k continuous. That kind of session is great on the track. You can nail the splits.

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Is your track old cinders, or mud or what?

No, a modern track. You’re right that in a way the pace itself seems a bit easier. Initially. It’s the maintaining it relentlessly, nailing each and every 200m split with no drift either up or down, that gets hard. On the road, I’m just going to try and run a pace, and I know there’s probably some fluctuation in there even if my km splits are all consistent

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Long stuff on the track is definitely harder mentally for me - I even find mile (1600) reps on track harder than a mile road loop I use. 5 and 10k races are brutal if you’re running them time trial style with a steady pace throughout