Training - What Training?!

Its almost an experiment itself, if only it had parameters and controls, but basically people seem happy to go all out many times a week, week after week.

If we could compare that to vo2, sweet spot and aerobic training sessions, and the popular models of training it would be good to see what differences there were.

Could be an easy post grad study.

I know one multi sport athlete and two cyclists who have improved quite dramatically, the only difference between this year and others is zwift.

If your improving / becoming more efficient and not getting injured… there’s nothing more left to say really.

If the world mends itself and we get back to regular racing I guess a few longer efforts and you’ll be away.

11:15 recovery week.

Went as expected, highest weight recording in recent history, been on the turbo every day so far this month and actually sticking to my stretching routine.

More importantly had a great Xmas, new year and birthday.

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it felt OK although quite a boring set - but then I guess rowing a marathon will be pretty boring as well. I kept a very good consistency and hit exactly the same splits for each set (the target pace was easy though but the plan was to develop consistency) to the 1/10th sec. set 3 got to me a bit and I was erratic in the middle - probably some mind drift from boredom - but easy to get back to target pace.

next is a 5km row - and to push ourselves but maintain a good consistent pace. no set target - has to come from us. that’s an interesting challenge.

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Weirdly I would do a lot of indoor training normally, so not sure if it’s that I’m being more disciplined and avoiding too much Z3?

Running I clearly just needed to do more of.

Am (sadly) starting to treat 2020/21 more like an Olympic cycle gearing up for 2022 and IM Frankfurt. With the way things are going I’m not sure there’ll be a race this year I’ll be able to go to

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I’m hoping for two races in March…

But with 50-60 k catching the lergy everyday, that looks a stretch already.

If there’s no tris I’ll do something else… anything !!

Nice, sounds like you’re getting lots of variety!

Keep up the good work, sounds like you’re getting there!

I did a short walk\hike today, it was very boggy and snowy so took about 80 minutes.

At least I don’t think I aggravated my leg, got some nice pics as well.

Not sure if the Ultra in March will go ahead, I don’t think it will so might keep my place for now rather than getting a refund or selling it, in case it gets rearranged, but it will probably clash with other things later in the year.

Right now I’m more aiming\hoping to do the Southport Tri in May.

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I’ve had a great week. Considering it was in that weird in between christmas and New Years and every day has felt like a Sunday.

14 hrs 11 minutes - 906 tss

319 km 9hrs 42 biking

Highlight was my PRL full 5 hr+ shift on the turbo

58.5 km 4hr 17 running

That’s a big week for me. A hard 5 and 10km effort will see me take it easy all next week

Was going to get another hour on the turbo but I’ve got a bottle of red that needs finishing

:v:t2:

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You’ve been on it @Adam :facepunch:

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Please can I ask for the hive’s critique of my loose training plan for IM Lanza in May?

Facilities available locally:

swimming pool, Zwift, hilly roads, muddy runs. Tri club, running buddy. 1 medium size male body in fair working order with OK aerobic base but with 47 years on the clock.

Routine:

7 work days per fortnight. On these 12 hour days, a morning swim or a short evening run/ Zwift is all I’m good for, and quite easy too. Then I need beer- non negotiable & have been known to crack open the first one on the turbo.

4x weekend days per fortnight. Family duties take priority but I can usually get in a decent 1-2 hour run each day.

3x play days per fortnight. On these days can do whatever I want until about 5pm, within the confines of the law & my propensity to get distracted by all sorts of stuff. Any long bike sessions need to be on these days ideally.

Limiters

Haven’t ridden more than 120km since IMUK in 2007. Legs turn to jelly after long bike. Also, have forgotten everything I learned about IM training, as it was 14 years ago.

Have small attention span and tend to get a bit bored doing long sessions, but know I’ll need to man up about this.

No annual leave until race week

Goal: IM Lanza, May 22nd

Bronze: finish, avoid the hospital
Silver: in daylight
Gold: without walking

Loose plan

  1. Keep ticking over with a bit of swimming and shorter running and short zwifting, do something pretty much every day.
  2. Do one long run each weekend, up to 2 hours.
  3. Use play days for longer bike riding. Aim for 2 hours per play day, indoors or who knows maybe even venturing outdoors occasionally.
  4. Do at least 4 big outdoors rides, 4h+, one per month Feb Mar Apr May, using race bike & food.
  5. PLUS do 2 big SBR days, metric IM, one in March and one in April.
  6. Hope race actually goes ahead.

Questions:

How does that sound? Any glaring stupidity? Anything I have missed? Anything you’d do different? How do you not get bored on a long bike?

Thanks for any tips :+1:

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By no means an expert but that plan sounds like it needs more beer :wink:

On a more serious note if I was building to an IM this summer I would probably use some of the Zwift 100-160k group rides, till weather/time availability improves, to help build my cycling base/endurance. The constant nature of the work on turbo may go well with an event like Lanza and its notorious winds. Evo do a 160k ride, usually see @Doka on there, at 7am Saturday and Sunday that keeps to 3w/kg. I tend to join these each weekend till whatever family duty needs me to jump off turbo and be available. Tends to cause less agro than trying to ride outside. Lots of other group rides 3R/Kiss at base which do much the same.

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Yep no mistake you need to get some long rides in.

There was a bit of discussion on it a little while ago

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A mistake I’ve made before, more than once, idiot. I’ve got to the point of doing multiple 60-70s but neglecting more 80-90+ and thinking I’d survive with a couple of 100s on top

ETA - get outside, don’t rely on long turbo rides, that one came back to haunt me too

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Another 12 km hour jog in the bank.

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Sat down and made a rough plan to get me to my early July race, put some monthly benchmarks in to build run and bike distances, 3 metric IM sessions for the spring. When the time trial calendar is populated I will see about how any 50’s and 100’s slot in.

Generally I am good at planning, but I struggle to commit to the sessions which really add the extra distance. I am very comfortable at 60 - 70 mile rides and 13 - 15 mile runs but taking that out to 100 plus mile rides and 20 mile runs is where I find my excuses.

Let’s see how it works out…if any racing goes ahead!

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Miserable headwind

6.35 miles
45:38 / 7:11 mile pace
126HR

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Just re-read that thread, weren’t we a narky lot back then?

Also, I’m wondering if all those optimistic, innocent pre-covid opinions have changed after 10 months of WFH ftp busting Zwifting?

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Thanks Adam somehow I missed that thread first time round. Very helpful :+1: seems like consensus is get the long bikes in

Ah February 2020. We’ve been through a lot since then :rofl:

I think I’ve cocked up there. That wasn’t the thread I was originally thinking of. There was definitely a discussion around a stronger marathon off of the bike and it all based from being stronger on the bike leaving you fresher for the run

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