"Triathlon ergometer exercise machine" What do you think about this?

Hi there Kantsumer! What’s your market, where do you live? US, Europe or somewhere else?

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Not langsamer then….

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I think I’d ask another AI bot to auto generate nonsense back

@kantsumer what are your thoughts on aliens? Have you ever seen one remotely

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Ask me when I have more bandwidth.

Never seen a ghost, well kind of, a dead person hanging from a tree, but I have seen genuie @Hammerer Aliens… I generally don’t talk about it… but trust me they are real, are you or anyone else so certain they aren’t, if so why? I might write or talk about it at some point.

I never realised you were Scottish

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The body (ghost) is 100% real, it happened, and I cant explain it…nor can anyone else that knows about that 24 hours in the area, there was no body found in the woods but I did see it, maybe some kind of future echo? I mentioned it in the ghosts thread, about the same time someone hanged themselves in their loft, which I didnt learn about until a few days later.

The Alien experience, decades have passed and I now wonder what happen, it seems unlikely, but equally very real. Only talked about it to my wife and it will probably stay that way.

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:astonished: one for Blackpool

:ghost::alien::space_invader:

:it::robot:

Swimming is good,
cycling is good,
running is good.
Triathlon is very good in my opinion. The world is full of combined exercise machines that have been manufactured for a long time and are in demand.

The first point of my business plan is to figure out whether anyone needs such a machine and whether it is worth continuing with the business plan.
If anything, I am in Germany now.
Please note that this is only a preliminary design. I can think of a way for it to take up little space and be a single device. Make other changes. Since I am an engineer.
I had a more general question about the triathlon machine for my understanding. As I see, most are skeptical.

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I have seen a genuine @Hammerer Alien as well…scary stuff…

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Apologies for scepticism, I thought you might be yanking our chain a little.

But if you are serious - what are the advantages? Would it have a reduced footprint or cost compared to, say, a folding treadmill and a turbo? Would it avoid duplication of any parts like motors?

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Schoen, wo wohnst du? ich hatte vier jahre in BY gelebt.

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You know those hamster balls you put a hamster in so it can run around the living room without fear of it disapearing under the sofa or escaping?

I’m thinking a human size one of those you could put your bike in it. You could bike in it, run in it. Fill it half full of water you could swim in it.

First 100 people to send me £500 each, get a 50% discount when I go to market.

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We eagerly await your IPO. I sense a race to market on this one…

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Literally no one “needs” such a machine but since when has that stopped a triathlete blowing huge wads of cash on anything, but there are ~20k TE members currently, so not a huge market

yes, most of us have 20+ years on the sport and have seen countless ideas fall by the wayside, but also we arent going to be the target market, you need to convince newb’s before they become old and cynical and give up after their first Ironman. Its the sort of device that will be on ebay after a year diluting the future market

each individual item is going to be difficult in its own right to put together :
swim ergs are not new, BUT they are not popular in swimming for a reason. The Zen 8 was the big new shiny thing in covid and is cheap, but it’s crap. Nothing can simulate water and you might as well buy some stretch cords and a swiss ball, add a small stability “ball” (the half ball thing) and you can practice kick/balance and help with strength also. I’m not sure how you can simulate pace, I guess some force paddles, but they are ££££s and none of this takes into account proper technique and drag. You cannot learn balance in the water without being in the water

bike, we all have one, most people already have a turbo/rollers anyway but it needs to attach your own bike or be a “smart bike”. The turbo/smart bike will need to transmit power and cadence and receive terrain data over bluetooth. A smart bike would need to have massive amounts of adjustability, like a Tacx/Wahoo bike, or the new £1k Zwift bike, a turbo would need to be as good as a Neo/Kickr

run, not many people really owns a treadmill as they take up too much room and make a lot of noise so needs to be quiet, small and also needs to transmit and receive power/speed/cadence/terrain data over bluetooth to make it stand out

Have you considered the technology and software requirements? you need power/chips/system software, remote software to manage and configure the equipment and an online “game” for people to play. Also you’d need to tie in with Zwift et al for bike/run so would need to be big and good enough to potentially get access to access to API’s or their protocols which may not be standard

your device, I’m assuming there would not much change from £10k, considering the price of this
and for that reason, but not that reason alone, I’m out

Tacx Magnum Smart Bike Run Treadmill Trainer | Sigma Sports

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Is there that much demand for a swimming machine, even for pure swimmers? Much as we joke about triathletes not liking swimming, I’m sure most would rather go to the pool to do their swim training rather than using a machine at home. Swimming is a technical sport, so you get much more benefit from being in the water than you would from a machine.

What sort of data is this machine going to generate? Is it just going to display pure numbers, or is it going to integrate with a VR display like Zwift? People training at home want to look at more than numbers on a screen when they are training

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This is very true, someone (more than one) would buy such a machine, I dont think the market for such an item would be very big though.

Just look at all the TT bikes on ebay used once or twice and during a single IM training block.

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I’m going to go against the grain & say there is a product here that some people would buy, not me, I wouldn’t even buy a new treadmill but if it delivered on successfully combining all 3 in the same footprint as the treadmill ‘some’ people would buy it.

A motor is needed for the treadmill & high end turbo’s - Synergy. I think it would need a direct drive connection from the bike to the treadmill & not just friction on the belt but an engineering challenge to solve. Maybe a Neo style motor on a treadmill can give you running power?
Some treadmills have elevation, so does Kickr - Synergy.

I have the Zen8 kit but never used it, mostly because it’s too much faff to setup for the benefits, I might if it was a quick setup in the treadmill space. A Neo motor with a pully/cord combo could give you resistance & power for the swim erg also.

Combining all 3 you can invest more on the screen, maybe a camera can give you feedback on your arm/elbow positioning. It’s not going to make turn you into Phelps but it’s something.

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updating the app every few months will cost an arm and a leg…but then you could race Para-Tri…

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You could only update twice then. Ill get my coat.

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