Something I’ve mentioned on here numerous times is my feelings on over reliance of made up metrics like TSS. My common drum to beat is how a 100mile steady training ride gave same TSS as a marathon race that left me walking backwards downstairs for a week. Also I think I mentioned, sure it was from IMJ, where someone said they cut swimming as it was making them “detrain”

I know its just 144 character soundbite but more experts are sharing this opinion. The only metric you can accurately believe is what your body tells you


100% agree. It often seems like an end in itself.

As an aside, I really like Joroen Swart.


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Likewise. I double taked at first glance of the post that he was needing to apologise to him, but reading the thread looks like all agreeing that just chasing TSS is meaningless.

Was lucky enough to be able to go to Cape Town for 3 weeks as a student to observe Dr Swart and their sports medicine practice. Can’t really give enough superlatives for my experience there, I still feel years/decade’s away from reaching that.


Some scientists are way too “scientific” if that makes sense but the likes of Swart and Seiler use the evidence in the right way to guide and inform, not dictate

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Totally agree. As an example I saw him do a bike fit for a pro cyclist with an ischael hygroma. In the lab with all the cameras and sensors etc, but he did it 90% by eye, tape measure and quick angle measurements, and then turned the fancy kit on just to check and consider tweaking if he agreed with it.

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