Virtual Zwift Rides

Lunchtime 3R race for me. 4 laps of London Classique, plus lead in. Felt I raced tactically well. With 3k to go, I was within the front B pack. I’d been in the second pack, but we’d clawed the front pack back over the latter part of the race. Pushed 400+ watts up the final little kicker to crest with the pack, but then a small gap opened up over the top of the climb and I was left behind in a second group. Ended up finishing 10s back of the winner.

Closest I’ve been to finishing near the front of the race. I’ve never yet been in the mix during the final sprint. I can’t actually sprint at all, so it’s not like I’d have had a chance, but it’s nice to be getting closer to the front of some races, and if I can finish with the lead zwiftpower pack at some point, I’ll take that.

Yeah, you just get the Trek Emonda for the basic challenge. The circa 9k of climbing needed for that wasn’t too hard. Way easier than the California challenge. That took me ages from when I first signed up for zwift. The basic Everest challenge only took about 10 days. Wish I’d switched to it earlier as the bike you get for California is a complete waste of time in having in the garage given you can just buy the pro version of the Tarmac for cheap, which is better!

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800W for me, but 'i’m on the Zwift TT bike and the 50mm wheels (I’m a lowly level 13)

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Yeah, it gets even funnier when you do 50,000 mtrs, turn around and ask ‘where’s my Tron bike?’, then someone asks if clicked the Everest challenge! :astonished:

I started at 67k, so better late than never. :grin: Think I’m approx 11k in.

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I must have got in on the Everest challenge fairly early, as with 41k total climbing, I’ve got just over 35k towards the Tron bike.

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I wish there were more really hilly races, as most of the ones I do are less than 300m, hence still only being on 41k. I’ve only done a race up the Alpe once; they seem rare?

There’s loads at the moment given it’s one of the stages on the Tour for All.

On zwift power, you can filter upcoming events by “flat” or “hilly”, with the latter giving you some courses that include a fair chunk of climbing. The nature of those courses is that they all tend to take quite a bit more time, fairly logically.

Just checked, I’m 24% done.

Just done the Oh Crit round Harrogate, ave 238w, god knows where that came from

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I ticked of Knickerbocker and also got the 100 thumbs up badge.

Think I’m over halfway through the badges and routes, and I’ve only done about 4/20 of the running ones.

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Right thanks spotted that now; Stage 4. One starting every hour, so loads of flexibility.

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I counted up tonight, 25 of the Route badges left. I’m thinking* of going for Uber Pretzel on Saturday.

*thinking isn’t my strong point when it comes to endurance related likely outcomes. :joy:

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How the hell did you got 100 ride ons?
I did uber pretzel, changed my name, gave everyone i saw a ride on… And after over 5 hours, got 75 in return :sob:

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I think that’s ever not just tonight?

The most I’ve gotten in one ride is 25. (last Saturday). I don’t use the app whilst riding, so try to remember folks that have swapped turns with me (I know I get no effect but hey ho) then I give them a ride on after I’ve finished. Not a huge fan of the folks that chuck 'em around like glitter. I find it distracting.

I only wanted the badge. Yes I’m that sad :grin:

I’ll never get all the badges 'cos I’m not on Strava.

Some more thoughts on trainer difficulty settings for Zwift

As I have written before, I use my trainer diffiiculty at 70% or more. Every time I try a lower difficulty setting, my performance in races decreases. However, when I read the various articles, in theory a lower trainer difficulty setting should be better for races, why? In really simple terms, the lower the trainer difficulty, the lower the VI, the lower the VI the lower the apparent effort. However, there is a downside to a lower trainer difficulty in races: Races are not run on an even power output, the leaders will put in massive effort on the hills to split the pack - there is not much point doing this on the flat as the draft effect is too big. With a low trainer difficulty, the hills may not be apparent, and the first you realise that a surge is going on is when the pack disappears into the distance… as a result, most Zwift racers have the difficulty set around 30%

This all makes sense, so why do I prefer a higher difficulty setting? I don’t have a complete answer yet, however, I think that it has to do with my style of swift riding. Taking a comparison of my ride in the recent KOA sports league and @Daz. I know that Daz has his difficulty set to 30%, while mine was set to 80% for this race. My AP was 327w and NP 332w, so VI was 1.01, Daz did 297AP and 315NP, so VI was 1.06. Despite having my trainer difficulty cranked right up, my VI was much lower.

I am more of a diesel engine, I use my gears a lot to keep my power relatively stable, and I end up riding at the front of the peloton a lot. But due to this riding style, I am less responsive to sudden surges, I therefore need to feel the slight changes in gradient as quickly as possible to give me maximum time to respond, take away some of that trainer difficulty and I am at risk of missing the break. Daz on the other hand is a sprinter, I suspect that he sits in the pack doing what he needs to keep in position, constanly changing his power, dropping back and surging. When the pack hits the hills, he puts in a big effort to keep his place… maybe he even leads the break aways on the inclines. When we get to the final sprint, I’ve got no amunition, I am happy to push 500w for the final 2km, but what I can’t do is push 1000w for the final 250m, I simply don’t have the strength

Conclusion: Its too simple to say that a low trainer difficulty setting is always better (for races). If you are a good sprinter, then undoubtedly its the way to go, however, if you are like me, with a big engine and no top end then a high trainer difficulty setting may work better for you

I’m still waiting for a race where I can beat @daz I think that it needs to involve a very long climb

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I get everything you write, except for how it correlates with your previous point about needing to maintain power over the tops of climbs. I agree that’s necessary. I got caught out on that yesterday, but that was because I eased up too soon. But if you have a really high trainer difficulty, your resistance will fall away at precisely the point you’ve said before it’s necessary to stay on the power. Yes you can change gear, but it just seems an unnecessary requirement to shift significantly at this point.

Ultimately though, as you say, I can see it’s all personal depending on riding style

There is an element of course knowledge. Also my style on Zwift is very low cadence, but I am quite comfortable riding at a high cadence, as a result, at the end of a climb, I have plenty of capacity to respond to the descent by increasing my cadence. However, if you are climbing at a reasonably high cadence it is easier to be caught out on the descent if trainer difficulty is set high

I really don’t ease up in a race. But you do make a good point, yesterday was the first time I have actually raced Titans Grove well… constant ups and downs, you really need to know where to put on the power as its so easy to get dropped