thanks for that will have another look
thank you sorted 
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We were looking forward to doing the 33km Jurassic Extinction hike on June 22nd but I just don’t think it’s worth me risking putting myself deeper in the hole. I also want to be strong enough for Chamonix.
feel bad for LO as she wanted to do it but she’s taken it like a trooper. 
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Did a local fell race last night, 11K but TBH about 5k is on road. Was crap, didn’t feel great at the start and only just improved as it went on. Pretty much the end!
But, about halfway round I thought, I’m running on the hills on a slightly chilly summers evening so it’s not all bad.
Until I got diverted through the town along with all the HGV’s because they’d closed the main road 
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With a couple of months until Tallinn I am now in the vivid ironman related dreams phase - last night the organisers switched the order of events to do the run first, then the swim, and I couldn’t find my trainers.
I don’t feel ready, but do you ever if it’s your first full? Nursing a hip issue which has cost me 6 weeks of running but then I’m not going to be running the run am I, I’m going to be shuffling/walking for the best part of 6 hours.
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You should be quite fresh if you do the run first 
Annoying about the injury, as much a run walk to get through?
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So it’s a four loop run course and my plan was kind of always
Loop 1 - ‘run’
Loop 2 - run/walk
Loop 3 - shuffle/walk
Loop 4 - walk most of it and then jog the red carpet.
So I think I stick to that it will just be (even) slower and I might stick some paracetamol in my personal needs.
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I think I’d be tempted to try something like run 1k/walk 1k from the start and see how you feel? If you can slowly run half of it then you might get around 5 hours or under?
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Yeah that’s a good idea actually, thanks for the advice - no idea how it will go on the day, hoping it all just clicks into place magically haha 
I’d be thrilled with anything sub 5hr 30 to be honest. My normal marathon time is only 4hr 10 - so an hour on top of that feels not an unreasonable target?
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Saw Poland last week engraved all the medals the wrong way round as 1.9km swim, 90km run, 21km bike. Interesting ultra format.
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There was an events company called Tristar that was a round in the 00s and tried to mix distances and things up a bit.
I seem to remember them having a race in Spain that started with a draft-legal bike, then the swim across a river and the run at the end.
I don’t think it was a commercial success 
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Wasn’t the run on sand too? Or was that a different one of their events. They had a few that were a bit odd looking.
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There was a series in Oz called ‘IRT’ that was Run/Bike/Swim
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It’s easier to play with the format when you don’t need to swim in a wetsuit!
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@Chriswim, Deadly Dozen.
Genuine question, how on earth did you do 60 push press with 12kg’s?
I’m not a small bloke. In a previous life bench pb (barbell) of 155kg.
Yesterday, managed 2 sets of 8 push pressing with the required weight.
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Are you using legs/body enough? That seems a huge difference?! That’s about double my bench pb.
I tried to do some form of overhead press twice a week (I gym properly ~once a week/every 10 days), so often it might just be a 5-10 minute bolt on to a run with bands at home.
Some heavy days eg building up to 4x5 rep 20kg (shoulder press, not push press) mixed with some lighter higher rep and push press days, although often did both once I realised it was my big weakness, and combined with clean and press etc in same session.
I googled a bit and thought it was triceps that were limiting me, so did some pulldowns too.
But I do agree they were my worst station, and they come at the start of a lot of overhead work in subsequent stations. I was amazed that everyone at the pointy end of results took ~60s out of me on that station by doing them continuous or with one break.
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Yeah, I think my form is good but agree it’s shoulder heavy.
I’m currently training shoulders twice a week too, and throwing a a few more sets in with the functional fitness sessions. Oh, and swimming too.
What are you like on strict military pressing?
The 4x5 rep 20kg DB was strict standing (or sitting) shoulder press, no legs.
Am I right in thinking you’re particularly tall? Don’t know how much harder (if at all?!) that makes overhead work if long arms if you think you’re disproportionately weak overhead?
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I assume that’s holding 2x20 db’s? If so that’s much more than I can manage.
Maybe my shoulders are all for show and has no meaningful strength!
And not tall. I’m 5’10 / 5’11 but have long arms!
Haha, almost 2 years since starting this thread the above race is almost here. Flying out tomorrow and did persuade the GF who has joined the over 50’s today! Staying for a week.
Really looking forward to it, was a bit concerned earlier in the week when I wasn’t feeling great but that seems to have settled for now and will see how it goes. A stressful\annoying week at work hasn’t helped but I’m trying to forget that now.
Body is just about hanging together 
couple of aches but hopefully it will hold up.
I did apply to be in the 1:20-1:30 start group thinking it was possible, but a couple of minor niggles and nervousness about regularly doing intervals is going to make that a stretch, I also need to lose a couple of KG’s as I’ve eaten too many biscuits and I’m at the top of my weight range 
But, I’ll probably look for a 1:30 pacer and see how it goes. I have had a very easy week so far.
Strava thinks I’m capable of 1:32 and if I am over the bug I think that would be best case scenario, weather isn’t looking bad but it could be windy on the bridge and it depends on how much the drag from the bottom of the tunnel to the high point on the bridge loses me.
Pretty sure there’s live results\tracking and I’m 655, Bridge Run 2025 - Run across the bridge
What is your number, Bob?
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