Anyone fancy some of this chain lube? £115 per bottle.
https://absoluteblack.cc/graphenlube-worlds-best-chain-lubricant-coating/
@Poet needs this
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@Poet is jumping on the chain wax bandwagon
You know, when I got my new chain, I felt like dropping you a message to ask if you’d do it for me 
I had to go to the local hardware shop and bought methylated spirit and white spirit. Then noticed where they do the key cutting, they sold graphite lubricant powder, I know some put that in paraffin wax so bought some of that as well. Just waiting to get a small slow cooker.
£115 for lube is outrageous IMO
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Have you pulled the trigger on the elbow pads @stenard?
Credit card reset today. And got some further BA flight refunds approved yesterday for a lads golf trip. Finger is hovering…
Sounds like it’s paying for itself!
I appreciate it doesn’t cost £115 like the new aB lube but here is another wax option.
Submergible pouch though!
Another request for feedback … Q rings? I appreciate this is very personal, but do those that have them genuinely find them a significant improvement? And if so, how would you describe that/explain it (I know the general theory behind them, just wondering about those using them in practice).
My big ring is looking slightly worn (not badly, just a lot more than the little as generally expected), so I’m wondering if it’s something to experiment with when I come to replace?
I think\thought they might have some effect, but it could just be that they confused my SRM. When I raced hard with them, my best 20 minute effort was with them, by about 10-20W. Probably more than me just having a float day. But it wasn’t always consistent.
You could select the same gear\cadence on a turbo and see what it thinks.
Although, if it really was effective you’d expect more pro’s etc. to be using them.
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Yeah, agreed. Although what triggered the memory was watching a TdF repeat of 2012 last night and seeing Wiggins and Froome both using them.
Power wise, that’s tricky, as DCR says that numbers with them are not always comparable and certain power meters definitely don’t handle them well. With that in mind, I guess a lot of it probably is just going to be subjective.
Used them for a very long turbo on Monday…
Don’t feel any different, I only got them as I have 5-6 brand new 11/23 blocks that are virtually unusable were I live with normal gearing.
I’ll report back when I’ve been on the road after IMUK, with a 48/32 ratio they have to be good to climb with… or so I would hope.
I think Froome continued to use them for a few years, although might have had a few shifting issues? If you aren’t changing regularly it’s probably ok. I bought a bike a few years ago which had one on the small ring and I did a local climb and thought it seemed quicker than with standard rings, but again it could be a placebo effect.
I always thought the power numbers were for crank based PM’s, if it’s a rear wheel powertap, or your turbo that might make things easier?
Oddly, one of the original selling points was that they reduced fatigue, I think because you got a slight rest on part of the pedal stroke.
I did use them on my TT bike for a few years and at a couple of my better IM’s.
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Yes as Jeff noted, for me, the real purpose of going back to them was so I could have a 50T big ring, but have the benefit of added ‘torque’ at the power part of the pedal stroke, whilst overall having a smaller chainring, and thus a better chain line with my gearing as a result. I only use a Q Ring on the outer; inner ring is a std 36T. Shifts fine tbh. I used round 52/36 No Q Rings from 2014-18.
Back 10 years ago, and when I PB’d an Ironman, I had 53/39 Q Rings, but tbh I don’t think the effect is particularly noticeable. But they do look good, so there is that 
I have used them for the last 8 years. I borrowed this bit from a slow twitch product review as it explains the benefit I get from them.
Q-Ring is a standard 53T chainring with a 10% ovality producing a maximum diameter comparable to 56T chainring, and a minimum diameter comparable to a 51T chainring. - So on the downward pedal stroke I gain the leverage or benefit of a 56T and the 51T on the upward element so less stress on my little legs
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Why do you say oddly? That they quicken the part of the pedal stroke through the dead-spot at 12 and 6 o’clock is their USP I thought? And that would logically result in reduced fatigue as you’re not wasting as much energy in the ineffective parts of the stroke.
Hmm, oddly probably wasn’t the best word.
But I think the claim of reduced fatigue was the one the doubters flagged the most.
Purchased and arrived. They’re certainly a lot bigger, so I do question the “aero” part of the equation. But they were largely bought for comfort, so I need to give them a good go holding the aero position.
I can certainly see how for shorter TTing they would really help if you set up a position where you were forcing the elbows in a lot further. That’s not what I’m going for, and I’m trying to release tension in the upper body by allowing my shoulders/elbows to just relax into the higher sides.
Conveniently, with no adjustment at all, I’ve been able to get them pretty much like for like in terms of width and height to my existing position
I also measured with calipers which showed similar results, but just using same size arrows on the images as a pictorial demonstration
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Significantly larger aren’t they!
I really like the look of them. As soon as I get a race in the diary I’m going to get myself a pair