Hyrox

That depends…

Angelo Dundee springs immediately to mind…

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Reminds me a lot of tennis in particular where they typically have a coach rather than be part of a team, look at the likes of Raducanu and many others that left lifelong coaches that got them to the top and joined the big name, only to plateau or worse, regress

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More local and current could be Joe Gallagher
An “ ok “ boxer but a very very good coach
This can probably be applied to most sports.

If someone’s telling you the right stuff to do for you it doesn’t matter a duck how fast they went a few decades ago.

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I know literally nothing about tennis, or football ?!
But as just discussed with EJC this can be applied to most sports
Cash is probably the route issue.

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All GB sports are now required to support their athletes in transition from athlete to future career…i get the need to care, but am not sure any other occupation that does this (apart from the military)…

Good coaches are usually those who dedicate their learning to coaching…although being coached can contribute to this, the apprenticeship is very long and far longer than many potential coaches, be it ex-elite or not, can tolerate…

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i think some of what the tennis ex-pro offers is support in navigating the crazy circus that is the world tour…

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El Nino’s new club coach is a “career coach”, he swam as a kid, hes now mid 50’s and coached since he stopped swimming, he is still a student of the sport, always learning, hes an educator which as you know can facilitate learning through teaching. You only have to see him at competitions like the Nationals, he is poolside for every session, regardless of having a swimmer there, making notes, talking to other coaches! This is partly why hes one of the best in the country. BUT despite having national champs, kids that went to Worlds, kids that swam elite levels, he has never been part of the national squad

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two possible contributors;

one is a humility found amongst many (most?) of the high performing coaches that stems from fearing that they never know enough. (Not quite imposter syndrome but probably on that way…)

secondly, there is less likelihood for this coach to use their own model of learning within their coaching. It may help inform their practice, but there is less likelihood of replicating their own experiences and thereby limiting the development of their athletes

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Hyrox London
May bank holiday 2-5 I think ? Announced
I may be able to help some of you southern softies with an early entry code …?!but you will need to be quick.

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Crossfit usually involves alot of skill based movements which can take years to be even competent at and many of them also require a decent strength base too. From Olympic lifting (Snatch, Clean, split jerk etc) Bar or ring muscle ups and regressions from that like toes to bar. Hand stand walks. Those are the most common you’d come across. To even manage toes to bar the average person is going to take a few months minimum. This is no bad thing, learning stuff is fun, but is why I mentioned accessibility.

However anyone can run, move a sled, ski, row, lunge, carry and once they’ve been shown can execute a proper wall ball or burpee broad jump to the movement standard

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that’s why it is popular…

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There was a cross fit competition on the TV at the gym at lunchtime.
One of the stations was a handstand walk with 5/6 pads on the floor that they had to touch with their heads then press back up to a handstand and move to the next pad. As best I could tell it had to be done all in one go as a few fell down between pads and had to go back to the start.
It looked absolutely nails and caught a lot out. That’s a long time to support your weight and hold your balance with 5/6 bodyweight shoulder presses thrown in for good measure. :clap:

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Yep I looked at one years and years ago
Pull ups press ups running I would have done well

Handstand walk …?!?
lol… not a chance

A bit like lots of fit people we all know who genuinely would drown in a big bath

As John says all hyrox standards can be mastered ish … some CrossFit stuff not so much

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Exactly! Again, the average person will take a while before they can even kick up to a handstand against a wall!

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I’m guessing CrossFitters look down their noses at those playing with Hyrox a bit like triathletes regard duathletes & their inabilty/unwillingness to devote some time & effort into developing new skills.

:fishing_pole_and_fish:

:grinning:

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Luckily I’m doing a 50km hike the two days before, so no desire to enter now

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Oh hello !
Ha ha
Bulky life long crossfitters ( very strong and good at some very difficult stations/ exercises ) tend not to be the fastest runners, in my experience they are very complimentary about the pure run speed of skinny triathletes like us.

Once they change those awful metcon trainers some are moving well now, some have point blank said hyrox has “ too much running “
Fair enough

The deadly dozen some are doing is in between the two for me ( CrossFit / hyrox) the stations in the shorter event look hard and will require some practice to do well.

You could always just rock up and have at it but not sure this would be “ optimal “ and I’m sure would be quite painful

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Pretty sure there’s one in oct/ nov in the big smoke too?
Enjoy the long slog

Yes unbroken @Mungo2

The results suggest people doing <45 minutes isn’t uncommon at the top. That’s why I first suggested it might be ‘easier’ (wrong word) than Hyrox after hearing @Sowler times.

So if they’re managing 17-20 minutes for the run time (allowing for 5k at <4:00. I know it’s 4.8km.but there must be some moving between the stations and the run track too) then that’s 2-2:15 minutes per station average.

Which seems rapid for stations like 240m carries, 60m lunges. Clearly they’re threshold animals capable of sprinting each station and being on the limit. Or they’re managing the 60 rep stations in ~60s and gaining time there.

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Had another look at the exercises for your event
LOL

That bear crawl and over head carry give me a stiff back looking at them ?!?

It’s “ shorter “ but more intense than hyrox in my opinion, the one lad who has done one I know is a 1:05 hyrox athlete so fast, I’ll ask him his time when I see him
Certainly less roxzone time ( the time taken from track to stations and back) than hyrox, doing lunges, bbj”s, fireman’s on grass would be weird / hard

He said he “ smashed “ the stations, unbroken I think ? And used the runs as recovery
I guess you will find out your best strategy when you do your sims.