Ideas for the future of Ironman

I can’t understand how/why they’re rescheduling for just six months time???

Would I feel safe flying then?
No, probably not.

When did China get it? December/January.
When is it now? March.
They’re still mostly in lockdown.
That could be us in three months (12 weeks, as BoJo said)

Nobody knows what’s going to happen.
If the vaccine/immunity is 12-18 months away, then we could be in the state of how we are now, semi-normality and back again, until the vaccine arrives/immunity is reached.

I’ve made my peace with all events for 2020 being off.

Would I want to mix with 2,000 other people in just six months time?
Many of whom have come from anywhere?
No.

It’s a shitter, but I’d be switching to 2021 where possible, or getting a 100% refund in others.

I ran Wilmslow Half Marathon solo and got
My t-shirt, medal and goody bag.
Wilmslow Triathlon - I’ll receive a full refund.

Southport haven’t mentioned anything (£50)
Staffs and Bolton??? I’ll defer to 2021, but this year was perfect for training over winter and with no major life events occurring (apart from the house move)
Next year? I’m not so sure.

Agreed, they should just say, okay, 2020 is a bust. You can transfer to the 2021 event.

There are too many logistics involved to be constantly chopping & changing in another 5-6 months. It’s not a fun run.

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Yep, agreed. I’m not accepting the BA vouchers they are offering, and am claiming the cash refund via travel insurance. Insurance company have told me I therefore just have to let the flight go tomorrow, get a letter of “no-fly”, and then they’ll pay out.

The tactic the world is now on is wait for a vaccine. Ergo, we’re not going to be doing anything different to what we are globally doing right now for at least a year, at the very earliest.

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THIS :point_up_2:

Partly, there will be far more restrictions on our lives for the next 12 months, and probably longer, but we will adapt and get used to them

I was meaning from a racing perspective. Without a vaccine, there is no chance of mass scale racing as social distancing will have to stay in place until that point in time. We will adapt personally / socially, but from a racing perspective not much is going to be able to change based on the global tactics to this

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That’s what I meant whe I said that there will be restrictions. Later in the year, we may have some really small events, but don’t see any big events like Ironman or Marathons taking place

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Apart from Outlaw Half, the only other event I had entered was the Fan Dance race. They effectively only need a few guys, some tents and some radios, on a hill; so it’s a very agile thing to conduct. At least you’d hope so given they keep banging on with military maxims on the FB page!

Outlaw/OSB has maintained complete radio silence I see; at least by email. I haven’t looked at their FB page, as I’m not anticipating doing it.

…none of the links about “Managing your race entry” work in the Active.com emails - they simply redirect to the awful IM main page?

The emails states to contact your race “Athlete Representative”, but give no indication of how to do so?

on FB, they’ve taken a Wanda style stance of ‘we’re watching and waiting’… but their tone of voice suggests they already know what the answer is going to be.

Hmm, stolen from Slowtwitch, but is mentioned on the IM website but the launch is 1st April, legit?

Offering places at the 70.3 WC in NZ as well, might be good for @Chriswim

THE IRONMAN GROUP LAUNCHES IRONMAN VR

  • A NEW GLOBAL RACING SERIES -
    AND THE IRONMAN VR PRO CHALLENGE
    IRONMAN Virtual Racing Series and IRONMAN Virtual Club
    will allow athletes to train, compete and stay connected with the close-knit athlete community around the world

    The IRONMAN Group, a Wanda Sports Group company (Nasdaq: WSG), today announced that it will add the IRONMAN® Virtual Racing™ (VR™) Series to its portfolio, including the IRONMAN VR Pro Challenge that will debut on April 4 through the IRONMAN Now Page on Facebook Watch. The IRONMAN VR Series will be offered through the soon to be launched IRONMAN Virtual Club™, a web-based platform allowing athletes to train and compete from anywhere around the world at any time through the IRONMAN VR Series of weekly races and challenges.

“At the IRONMAN Group, our mission is to provide exceptional, life-changing race experiences for athletes of all levels from their first step to the finish line,” says Andrew Messick, President & CEO for The IRONMAN Group. “We believe that under extraordinary circumstances such as these, athletes should be able to maintain the structure and continuity that training and competition provides. The IRONMAN Virtual Club is an innovative digital platform that enables our athletes to continue training with purpose, remain connected to our community and provides an opportunity to compete through the IRONMAN VR Series.”

Athletes will compete in the traditional age-group categories and for select virtual races, will have the opportunity to earn qualifying slots to the 2020 IRONMAN® 70.3® World Championship in Taupo, New Zealand scheduled to take place on November 28 and 29, 2020. Virtual races will begin on Fridays at 6 p.m. GMT and close Sundays at midnight GMT with the first competitive race, IRONMAN VR1, debuting on April 3. The format and distances may vary each race weekend. The IRONMAN Virtual Club platform will utilize connected devices and be compatible with most wearable technology and app trackers. Upon completion of a race, athletes will receive a finisher package including the collectible IRONMAN VR medal and finisher tees for that race. The IRONMAN Virtual Club will additionally provide an activity-based loyalty point system designed to motivate athletes as they train and reward them through merchandise, discounts and special benefits.

During each weekend of competition, there will also be a Women’s and Men’s IRONMAN VR Pro Challenge. Two professional female athletes will compete on Saturday and two professional male athletes will compete on Sunday for prize money. Anyone around the world will be able to tune-in to the head-to-head battles through the IRONMAN Now Page on Facebook Watch. The coverage will also follow the competing age-group athletes through User-Generated Content shared on the interactive platform, allowing athletes to see how they match up against fellow competitors through live look-ins and leaderboard updates. Additionally, every Monday at 6 p.m. following the race weekend, the IRONMAN VR Rolldown Show will provide the best action from the weekend and an interactive live awarding of the 2020 IRONMAN 70.3 World Championship qualifying slots. During the live coverage, the IRONMAN Foundation will also run Facebook fundraisers to provide support for our traditional host communities.

Full details and specifics regarding the IRONMAN VR Series and IRONMAN Virtual Club will be available at launch on April 1, 2020.

Cant see Taupo happening, either.

Where’s my ostrich GIF?

Well, they need to have made a f*****g huge step foward in their online and tech skills compared to what they’ve delivered thus far…

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It would take a year to dev something like that with the best gaming programmers, artists et al. i hope to be proven wrong but cant see it.

I suspect it’s going to be something like upload a Wattbike\Zwift ride and a run of some variety, I doubt it will be that in-depth as you suggest, dev doesn’t come that quick.

Jeff

it would also take enough communicating/recruiting into a market that is VERY good at listening to the whispers in the ether, that we’d know about any serious development effort by now.

My guess is it will be really basic and they’ll have a really crude UI, that if we’re really lucky uses Ant+FEC or the bluetooth equivalent to follow a course and profile on a smart trainer, with a 2D map display, capturing the data and sticking the results in a league table, possible with a little 2005 style dot watching!.. or maybe they’ll delight me with something more sophisticated!

Agree this wont be happening soon but as a general point there will be a lot of software developers with time on their hands. I imagine a lot of community led programming activities going on.

You are 100% correct.

Before Spotify I used Rockbox, an alternative software you used to replace the software on your iPod or similar. Rockbox was miles better than the original in pretty much everyway and was a common system across a dozen or more players. Rockbox was an online community for these programmers in a similar way Trittalk is for us and their work was mighty impressive and has opened my eyes to what is possible.

There’s a guy who tried to design a stage on Unity (game engine) for the program Road Grand Tours (worth a look, its free largely also) but they wasnt interested so he went away and wrote one himself. On Facebook look up Velo Cycle Scrollers. Just shows what one guy with Unity and C# skilz can do in his bedroom. Maybe a Zwift alternative isn’t far away!

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