Injury List- do any parts of you still work?

Mentioned elsewhere I have had knee niggle for about 3 months & at first ignored it, but now am taking @Doka 's approach. Hate the idea of someone sticking metal tools into it, feel it would have to be really bad to even contemplate starting off on a route that might lead to that.

Working on quads & VMO strength, hamstring range, balance & core. Swimming, careful on the tumbles. Cycling with close attention to what feels ok. Not running at all at the moment.

It’s actually been a shocker to discover how kitten-weak my core is. Amazed I made it this far without more injuries. Hopefully just a wake up call & fixable & better habits in future.

@JD-Scarabtri doing a whole IM on that knee :scream: you must be hard as nails!

PS what’s the definition of an empathetic orthopaedic surgeon? One who cares deeply about the whole bone, not just the fracture.

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Thanks for the replies already, you beat me asking about it on here. A bit of history. Day to day my knee is ok but randomly if some sort of twist occurs i.e. carrying a set of draws up stairs and the putting all the weight on my bad knee at the top of the stairs a twisting around the bannister my knee went (I appreciate this is an extreme example, but it is something I would have previously done and not thought twice about it or had any problem). More common is running and doing a bit of a shimmy around a traffic island rushing to cross the road before the traffic lights chjange i.e. just putting a spurt on plus a bit of twist and bang there goes the knee. I enjoy running off-road but last time in the Spring I rolled my ankle on a root which was ok but my knee went again. It usually has taken 1-2 weeks of no running before I can start building it up again and I have been sensible (for me) in building up slowly.

I was thinking (hoping really) that surgery would be the magic pill to fix all, but reading an article the other day really got me doubting surgery was going to be as good as I was lead to believe. Then reading a few posts on here after doing a Meniscus word search and your helpful comments already today is definitely making me doubt surgery is the best option. Keep your views on this subject coming, because I really do appreciate them as I think what we put our bodies through we really do know them well. I think this thread would also be helpful for others in the future because it does sound like a common injury for us and there is very mixed views out there and what @Doka says, which is what I was sort of thinking (I was referred to a private hospital by NHS) hence the question on here :-

@Doka I’ve never really done much strength training so just had to watch a video of how to do a pistol squat ! My range, in both legs is very bad and my bad knee was sore but not really bad i.e. I could get past the sore section to a similar not very good posiiton as my good leg. One of the physio’s I saw 6 months before Tenby had me doing single leg squats and I did struggle to get past the painful section on the way down and then back up, there was just one part of the range which was painful, if that makes sense. Even after Wales I don’t have the severity of pain in my knee as I did 6 months ago, so hopefully that does mean I can strengthen what needs strengthening to improve and hopefully fix it myself.

I will speak to another sports injury physio I know, who is more expensive than the usual ones, but in this case I am thinking this would be money well spent if I can sort myself out without surgery. In the meantime keep your thoughts coming :+1: thanks everyone

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not in all cases. I’ve had 2 meniscectomies done. The first was to fix a left knee tear caused by a MTB injury (cracked my knee on the headset during a big crash) which was very painful just standing up - recovered quickly and no more pain. The second was last year to fix a tear in the right knee caused by the dog running into me as I was walking and had all the weight on that leg. It was painful when walking let alone doing anything else. Took a year to recover (age related I guess!) but no pain at all now.

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This is my quandry, will it or won’t surgery work. I fully accept that every case is different and I guess I was wanting to believe that surgery would be a guaranteed magic pill i.e. an easy fix. Noting how long it will be before I will get a date for surgery I do have time to try the strengthening solution (which has to be a good thing anyway at my age) and if I can see improvement then can stick with it and I’m sure there won’t be a problem to delay surgery other than delaying the inevitable if surgery ends up as the necessary solution.

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it’s always a risk having surgery but in my experience of myself, Mrs FB (she’s had 3), and others then they have sorted the problem.

the one I had last year was after I had a consultation with an orthopaedic surgeon who specialised in sports injury (turns out we both did IM Wales the same year - 2011) who recommended it for my tear. As it happens he became ill with a brain tumour (he is fit and back at work again now) and the op was done by one of his colleagues.

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Didn’t we have an orthopaedic surgeon drop in here a while ago and share some wisdom? I can’t recall the username but pretty sure it was on this thread

Also there’s this thread:

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I am sure it is on here. I tore the medial meniscus in my left knee a couple of years ago. Hurt a lot for a bit and esaed off. I couldn’t flex my knee more 90° for a couple of months and still can’t quite fully flex it.

I couldn’t run at all for a 2-3 weeks and when I could run, going downhill was too painful so had to walk. It is mostly fine now. If I have had a long day on my feet with lots of walking it can get sore in the late evening. A quite painful dull ache. It regularly has a sharp, stinging feeling that is instantly relieved by a quick straightening of the leg that causes the knee to crack. I possily could have had surgery either private on work health cover or maybe NHS but I knew there was a good chance that just leaving it and doing as much as I could and it would likely resolve. Running doesn’t bother it at all.

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I’m another who had a Parrot Beak Medial Meniscus tear found after an MRI following some serious mobility issues in 2017. At it’s best in the early days I couldn’t run or push off the pool wall, but some days I couldn’t walk properly or with any pace. On these bad days it was as if something was trapped between kneecap & tibia. On good days a dull ache with the feeling that it could become a bad day with little provocation.

I was put on the waiting list for an op but had physio as well & eventually over the period of a year it sorted itself out. This was all on the NHS & although at times I would gladly have forked out for the op - & my FC bless her had okayed this - I was lucky enough to refuse the offer when I was eventually offered a procedure.

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First run for me in 6 weeks after tweaking something in the top of my right foot. Hasn’t impacted swimming or cycling in any way but only the last fortnight the swelling has gone and I’ve been able to walk about with no discomfort. Managed 2 painfully slow miles before I could feel it so just stopped and walked home.

No races in the diary and family holiday to Orlando in 5 weeks so not risking aggravating it!

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How’s that foot @Adam ?

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Still sore actually. Nowhere near the level it was on Sunday but it’s still there grumbling away. Haven’t commuted by bike to work this week to give it a bit of rest but I’m on my feet all day anyway!

Haven’t had any bruising so I don’t think anything’s broken but the affected area is still tender…

Was going to give Parkrun a go Saturday but I’ll make a call on the morning

Thanks for asking though!

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In a way it’s good to hear that it’s still causing concern. If you’d retired from IMW & it was okay quicksticks that would’ve been a mindfuck.

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I should have finished that story so I will now.
I had an MRI ( my physio wasn’t happy to start a rehab program until this was done )
On the back of this I had a consultation with Mr Neil Hunt ( knee surgeon to the stars :joy: ).
No damage to the meniscus just a serious MCL strain. He said a pro footballer would be out for a couple of months, so it was quite bad. From there on it was a simple physio rehab program and taking it easy for a 3 months ( easy cycling and minimal running )
Realistically from now, I’d be looking at next year even if you don’t need surgery. Rushing back from injury is one of the basic mistakes we make as AG athletes. :v:

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After feeling a bit off for a few weeks, had test results back.

Seems I’ve picked up a parasite called Cryptosporidium from the river.

Anyone else had experience of this?

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Yikes - sounds scary although the usual internet sources seem to indicate that it is fairly common and will just clear out of your system in a few weeks

Get well soon

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Quite a positive session with the physio today. She commented on how decent my body was after this race compared to usual! :rofl: My normal weaknesses and tightness weren’t too bad.

Some locked up muscles in my SCM, clearly from gripping a bit too tight on my RHS in aero. That what not pleasant when the muscles were worked on!

Foot injury that i was worried about luckily seems to be part soft tissue bruising and part neural. It’s already improving, have had some massage on it and need to do some golf ball rolling. But another week or so off running and i am fine to get on a bike, just need to loosen my shoes.

So pretty happy with that. Just need to get off my fat ass and do something now!

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You could swim :grimacing::joy:

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Wash your mouth out! :joy:

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I’ve swum twice since Wales.

Go me :slightly_smiling_face:

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Well this is not good. Meant to have a race tomorrow but about 6.30 just suddenly started shivering with stomach ache and my head feels really hot. In bed now. Parts of me are hot and parts are cold. :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

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