K let’s round up 19 and 29
What are these inches you speak of anyway
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I bought that very suit in a sale last year for £80. But Huub say their new anemoi+ suit is way faster than the DS suit. And so how much faster would the DS be than my garbage? And so how much faster would the anemoi+ be than my garbage…?!
I bought XS, S and M. I’m 6ft1. And skinny. Even the S was too fat in the arm. I had to keep the XS and shall we say it is tight around the nether region… made me wonder about what pros must use? Custom-made probably. I couldn’t shave my legs for fear I’d end up in hospital - the massage incident scarred me for life…
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Men’s trouser sizes innit.
I had my “girth” measured at my old man MOT the other week, they used inches then 🤷🏼
(Which is also when I found out my blood is mainly butter - performance enhancing butter)
I just find it fascinating now - before I had this idea you had to be whippet like to be fast, which really isn’t true at all.
Seeing forum members of 80kg + regularly doing crazy fast times across all disciplines and then seeing Foggy smash Bolton with his 60T single front ring.
But then you can also be whippet like and really crank out rapid TT times.
I guess it really doesn’t matter, so long as you have your own power and pacing nailed down.
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Yes. My medium has flappy arms, I have noodles for arms. I did take a look at the seams to see if I could take it in somehow, but it’s bonded and flat stitched 
And yes, the Anemoi is faster, but based on Huub quality, I wouldn’t be spending that sort of money on it.
I feel that being on the lighter side has helped maintain and even slightly improve run speed in my 40s, but at the cost of bike power which has undoubtedly dropped.
@Matthew_Spooner appears to be in on the secret of how to maintain power while late 40s and quite light
Sadly I have a hunch it involves lots of training???
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Massage incident?
Read and enjoyed your IMUK & Everest reports but don’t recall that 
Here’s the numbers I’ve found online:
Huub anemoi+ 4 watts faster than anemoi.
Anemoi 15 watts faster than DS. (Figures taken from Huub).
DS must be comparably faster than my garbage. So 34 watts from clothing.
Latex tubes - 4 watts (from aerocoach I think)
Shaved legs - 10-15 watts (specialized wind tunnel and somewhere else I can’t remember, they couldn’t believe the figures and ran repeated tests)
Waxed chain - 2 watts
Lower front end - say 5 watts (estimating)
New canyon bike 9 watts faster than old canyon
Old canyon must be similarly faster than my ancient trek (anyone got spare £12k?!)
So there are around 60 watts to be saved!
I’ve read estimates of 18-30 seconds per watt saved in an Ironman. So the above totals to 20-30 minutes saved on the bike. Then you’re less tired for the run so that might save you, what, a minute or two. Get a pair of vaporflies, another few minutes.
I take all the above with a small pinch of salt but I do think, as much as I thought I left no stone unturned in 2019, there was a lot more speed I could have purchased, some of it fairly affordably…!
Don’t! I’ve lost count of the times I’ve put a new suit into a basket and then left it again. I think my old one is crap, and it’s gone a bit baggy. It’s 8 years old, but only had a handful of uses so seems a shame. But I really, really don’t need to spend any more money on this flippin race!
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I’m just not sure they are additive.
What times were Mark Allen and Jurgen Zack posting im the 80s and 90s with budgie smugglers and metal bikes
Agree it makes sense to take any advantage though
Hmm…those “watts saved” figures don’t generally equate like that.
I don’t think they’re cumulative like that.
And they’re often for 45kmh.
Not 36kmh.
@JibberJim explained it to me once and I made a thing in Excel with air temperature, metres above sea level and all kinds of gubbins to figure it out 
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I shaved when I was a swimmer for my A meet once a year, and shaved for IMUK in 19. Haven’t shaved any other tri, but will next time I do a race I’m serious about just not worth the effort for most!
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Yeah this is the bit I think is important. Cause if we buy into all the marketing of x, y and z - we’d be doing 40kmph off about 10 watts.
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Ah! Is this why I’m quick in the pool?
‘Cos I’m smooth like a newborn
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Set of aero calf guards could be worth 5-10 watts
Started posting about shaving but TMI
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Yep I agree they are not additive gains, but my point is that they are more than just marginal gains and I’d have happily splashed out, say, an extra £500 if I could go back knowing what I know now - nice new aero trisuit and smooth legs and latex tubes.
I had a massage 2 weeks before IMUK2014 and my legs went septic and I ended up in bad shape in hospital. I was in superb shape that year and was gutted when I saw the results. So I guess if I was shaving my legs, I wouldn’t risk doing it for the first time in race week, I’d do it months before and maintain it. Which sounded too much of a PITA at the time. I had some leg hair shaved at IMWales one year for taping my knee and it was awful growing back, all prickly and catching in my trousers every time I moved…
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Yes, they are “watts saved to go 40kph (or sometimes 50kph)”, so if you’re going a steady 40kph, you’ll need 9w less if you have that canyon.
Remember adding 50w from 100 to 150 gets you roughly twice as much extra speed as going from 250 to 300, both are 50watts extra, but the speed gained isn’t anywhere near as much.
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We all saw it 
Anyways, there’s more important things to worry about!
How can I look THE MOST IRONMAN at registration?
Birkenstock’s
Knee high compression socks
Below the knee cargo shorts with a drawstring
Neon green visor
Faded poop brown Woodall Spa Sprint Triathlon t-shirt?
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I’m expecting at least a 50w saving by shaving my hairy pins