Nike Zoom Fly/Vaporfly 4 and NEXT% - The Thread

who knows? cause and effect are very hard to determine. Certainly i should have eased into the mileage, but the carbon plate will still take the foot in a direction which the ankle, knee, hip or back may object to longer term…

In use by Starky at IMFL yesterday apparently:

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Nike have given me a 20% discount code. Before my marathon I was tempted to buying some VF. However I’m now in two minds. I like to compare my PBs and see how my fitness is improving (or not!). Running in VF would add an extra calculation, for example: say I have a 10k race and my existing PB is 37:30 that would translate to ~36:00 in VF so I would be looking for sub 36. It also messes up training paces; do you train at VF PB pace or non-VF?

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So my wife needs a new pair of runners. She’s had a couple of pairs of Hoka off Sportpursuit, but I think she fancies a change. I recommended the Pegasus; but cannot find any decent deals. Not paying £100 plus!

Has anyone seen a good deal on any recent Pegasus models (Wms UK5/38). Merci

GAMETIME22 for 22% off the Nike Store currently.

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Have you had a look for the previous versions. They’re normally cheaper.

Runnerinn, sportshoes, wiggle, runners need, etc

Almost painful to watch! :joy:

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Quite interesting, thanks for posting.

Same size as me, although I size up one in all running shoes I have ever come across (mad! :roll_eyes:)

What @gingerbongo said: look for last year’s version. I have been doing that online for 10 years. Very faithful to ASICS. Although I went to a promotional event in the summer and bagged myself a current version of On Cloudflow for £75! Only used them on the treadmill so far; still not sure. But if Tim Don advertises them. :blush:

Unless/until the tech is in all shoes, I would say you’re better off not bothering then.

Hmm…PBs aren’t really comparable.
So many variables going into them.
Even on the same course on a different day.

My best 5km was trying (and doing!) to keep up with the Team GB female squad. That was on an evening of a normal training week, in the winter, dark and cold, and I’d already ran 7km there and was running home, too.
Best 10km had about 500m grass and 1km trail, but I was in fourth and hunted down third place.
I cycled 8km there.
My HM this year: there’s no way I’d have ran that time without having this guy next to me (from Derby, no less!) to chat to from 8km to 18km (he faded and then I felt super strong)

I always do better when there’s a race on.
Obviously training, taper, trainers etc come into it; but (to me) if you’re running in Next% or 4%, you’ve still ran the race - if you PB, that’s a new PB.

I don’t know if any time trial competitor who measures their PB by position, what wheels they had on, what frame they were using. It’s a bizarre frame of mind.

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When out willy waving I would always and only quote the pb, ie the vf one.

But as I race the same couple of courses week in week out, I keep track of both so I know where I am at and then I throw in other excuses such as hangover etc as to why it was not a pb.

What is disappointing is there is a couple of guys I would easily beat without the VF’s on and now I cant get near them with! Much work to do.

Wait until you use them in the rain. They make a sound like you’re killing a mouse with each step. GB and Jorgan would probably approve. :smile:

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so my rough back of a beer mat calculations re vaporfly next% are that when running at 6:30 min miling, for the same cadence and lower HR, i’m getting roughly 5cm more stride length compared to my regular boots. I geeked out on the maths and worked out that if i can sustain that kind of effort for the entirety of 26.2 miles, i’ll be 1318m further down the road than my regular shoe. No pressure to run well :joy:

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I don’t blame the rodents; it’s these bleedin’ cats! I can see why she was up for rehoming now; the divorce/cost thing clearly BS!

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You gain nearly a mile over a marathon???
Really, a marathon in Next% is only 25 miles???

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you’re just a mile further up the road than in non next’s

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5cm is pretty much spot on 4% for me

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Yeah, stats whatevva. But are they getting you swoons from the ladies? :sweat_smile:

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If they knew how much the trainers cost, they could very well deduce some impressive financial means (or a complete inability to manage limited financial means!! :rofl:)

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