Nike Zoom Fly/Vaporfly 4 and NEXT% - The Thread

And New Balance getting onto the carbon plate moon boot sole action

Get them in before April to avoid the 4 month delay in getting pros wearing them :wink:

@Poet a new colourway coming soon.

https://www.nike.com/gb/t/zoomx-vaporfly-next-brs-running-shoe-P3WPGv/CU4844-100

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Meh. Not a fan of that.

I think the pinks look the best

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Just a pair in stock in my size before the end of the month would do me :upside_down_face:

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What race you doing @TriCurious ?
I’m wanting some by end of the month for a two week “run in” period up to Wilmslow Half

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Looks like a UK drop is imminent…

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Planned on doing Oulton Park Mara on the 1st March but got myself an injury so not ran for a week!!!
2 weeks off yet so may still do it but may fall back onto the Blackpool Mara in April.

Just hope they get some back in stock in the next week and if not will have to get hold of a pair of those newer ones in March but i think they look fugly :innocent:

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28th February at 0930 is the drop for them.

Where did you get that info from?
Do Nike do next day delivery?

I like the pale orange and green ones.

So finally decided to try and be a counter point to @stenard and @APM and their view that is all great with shoe development.

Sport is an artificial activity designed to provide a framework for competition, running is not about how fast you can cover 5km or a marathon, that would be in rocket, or a car, or a bike,the Russian military had some jumping stilt like things that could go 20mph, and I’m sure if power stilts were built for speed not jumping you could progress the “running” world records there too. But using a bicycle in a marathon, or jumping stilts in the high jump, are clearly against the rules.

Sport doesn’t want to drive innovation, we don’t need a better shoe for running 5km in - well we might if fell running, but road running a bike will always be better. You might be able to build a better running shoe, but it’s not actually worth doing, just like if you really wanted to improve a bicycle for racing, we’d have fairings, recumbants for all but the hilliest, and all sorts of things that are not the artificial rules that defines sport.

Where the competition happens in a research centre, it’s fine, but it’s quite a different sport to the one that doesn’t. Yes people have developed shoes for years, with all sorts of claims for their effectiveness, but the reality was they weren’t effective, it was marketing guff, these shoes change the sport to something different.

Does that matter, does changing the sport matter? The reason I’ve been reluctant before is that fundamentally I don’t care about the sport, so I don’t really care if it changes, but it does matter, and it matters because of money and privilege. These shoes cost, they cost a lot - Stenard’s point was that the pro’s can get sponsored or they can buy them themselves, but that completely misses the point of who is penalized.

Where I am, you can make it to the London Youth Games by your time in a parkrun, how great is that, it’s a free event, everyone with a pair of shoes and can print a barcode and get in - but of course the privileged folk can buy their youth a pair of shoes that buys them 30+seconds, they get selected, the others give up, and the sport is diminished overall.

That would continue at every level of selection for events, you can’t give up the difference the shoes provide, so the sport becomes even more the privilege of the rich than it was before, you’re not sponsored in your first national selection meet, and you won’t get sponsored if you’re losing to those who are. You might get lucky and find someone to invest in you, but only if you are able to offer them something as a sponsored athlete, so we are again back to the privilege.

Sport is artificial, it’s there to construct some manner of equality of opportunity, these shoes subvert that, just like Man City’s false accounting subverted the champions league.

In reality, it doesn’t matter to me, the doping which is nodded through, looked aside is an even bigger and more insidious form of cheating that the organisers of athletics allow and enable, but running is not a sport that should be won in a lab.

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The Drop Date

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Looks like I’ll be running through the floods tomorrow, so most important questions is…how do I clean my 4% afterwards?

In washing machine inside a pillow case?

Non bio?

Synthetics?

Dry naturally or on dryer wool setting?

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I’ve put my Zoom flys through the washing machine a couple of times. I tried to tie them inside a trouser leg. Didn’t make much difference, they still rattled around. Came out fine though.

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In all my years of running I’ve never put trainers through the washing machine.

Scrubbing brush & outside tap.

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Stick them in the wash on the sports shoes setting at 20/30 degrees.

Paper stuffed into them, on a radiator upside down.

They dry in next to no time.

I’m wary of doing it too much as I believe it’s not great for the foam.

I also jet wash my push bikes.

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Obviously I don’t spend enough on washing machines!

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:open_mouth:

ÂŁ180 basic Indesit/Hotpoint one.
I only wanted a dial, temperature gauge and an LED countdown clock.

Everything gets washed under 40 on one setting anyhow.

RE: Jet WASHING Bikes.
What’s the big deal?
I’d rather spend £18 on a new headset and £25 on a new bottom bracket every year than freeze my wet nuts off hand washing them.

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