PEDs

Maybe Chris and fruit loop may disagree but I’d say the ped one was unlikely and after meeting thousands of crack heads in the last few decades they go to the docs infrequently or when they are after drugs to supplement or sell.

I think they tend to rock up at a and e when there in a bad mess

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well, you did…so what did you expect?

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The second Ineos 1:59 runner to be pinged.

The AIU has banned Kenya’s Marius Kipserem for 3 years from 22 September 2022 for the Presence/Use of a Prohibited Substance (EPO). DQ results from 17 August 2022.

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There all on it !

Lol

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at least it wasn’t EPO but something (Roxadustat) that helps to increase endogenous EPO

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Fascinating talk this evening from a Dr who was high up in WADA for past 20 years, along with being part of Aus Olympic teams etc.

One thing I thought interesting and shareable was that in 1999 when they were informally trialling their EPO test about 15% of TdF riders tested positive.
Yes including Lance.

Quite nice to know it wasn’t 80%.

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That’s been in the public domain for quite a while. I think they used the 1999 samples for further testing to improve the sensitivity of the EPO test. They figured that as the riders knew there wasn;t a test that they would be free to use it.

I do read a lot about doping so maybe that’s why I know that?

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I’d have loved to have attended that. I do the biannual UKAD advisor courses (part of BTF L3 and being on coach finder is to keep this up to date) but find it fascinating and the whole race to the bottom/top and work to catch the cheats. Considering the money in pro sport across the board , the little the authorities have to work with is poor and more should be put their way to help level the playing fields. I bet a “Lance” character had more money to spend than WADA did trying to catch “him”

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They tested the 99 samples at the time, but then later also went back and de-anonymised them to retest against people who’d later been caught I think.

Also when announced in 2000 that they did have a test that they actually didn’t!
I know Tyler Hamilton has said it forced them to stop taking and move to blood bags. When it was a bluff from wada.

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Was wondering how this was related until I read further, does Tom Baker have a TUE?

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Peter Davison does for his celery stick

The 15% were the ones who could afford it, i guess…

Wasn’t the change in his jaw an allegation against Carl Lewis at the LA games?

Although I’ve also found this, hadn’t seen it before and realised he’d pretty much fessed up.

Lewis: ‘Who cares I failed drug test?’ | Athletics | The Guardian

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I wonder if Russia paid out that $1M

Another talk by the same Dr, although this one about intersex/transgender participation and all issues testosterone. Q&A at the end led on to testosterone TUEs for transgender males.

She singled out middle aged triathletes as the main group who request TUEs simply for low T :joy:

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It’s a retrospective TUE for AG athletes. Does that mean they’ve all tested positive?

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It is, but you need to have the TUE evidence before you start taking T since exogenous smuse stops your endogenous supply. Otherwise think you have to be off it for 6 months before you can submit for blood tests to prove your claim, which for those with a genuine need to be on it would be a tortuous 6 months.

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Evidence. Sure.

But I doubt too many of the mainly US athlete (I believe) who take it approach the problem that way

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There’s almost no chance of a TUE for Testosterone for any “functional” diagnosis, so I do think it’s likely that an athlete would have the evidence, 'cos the allowable causes are all quite medical and would have a diagnosis.

You don’t get one for “I feel tired and I don’t feel like shagging anymore, and my level is X”, TUE’s are never appropriate by WADA for that.

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