That was immediately what I thought too. You’d still aim to output the same power, you’d just go faster by doing so (and therefore expend less energy as you’ve ridden for less time).
It’s the flaw of how aero is now talked about in terms of watt savings “for the ease of the reader”. In trying to simplify things so they don’t have to get into questions about cda, they actually prevent you from easily doing a calculation like Poet was attempting.
Absolutely… I wanted to make the point that even with pretty generous gains, the difference between a 2011 TT bike and the latest £10,000 super TT bike is actually relatively small.
If you are fighting for podiums or Kona Slots, maybe 4 minutes or so makes a difference, but imagine how much time you could take off with £10,000 worth of swim coaching (for me probably 20 minutes). A set of Nike go faster trainers will take more than 4 minutes off the run time, at just £250
… having said all that, @Jorgan would have gone under 10 hours if he lost 4 minutes 
How wide are those bars… looks like you are trying to hug as much air as possible there
…but there are so many variables; the bad weather probably cost me more than a minute. My mental pacing calculations were also flawed, as I had based it on every time I passed T2 again; but the finish was actually the best part of a Km after that point on the last lap! Plus these ‘super bikes’ didn’t exist in 2011; so it’s moot.
Yes. I mocked up the edit of the Wiki page.
Good spot by @stenard on the cursor there 
On the 6.5W saving thing.
My CdA is what BBS estimated when I fed it a 25TT power file from a race and all my details (weight, bike weight etc)
But, I see the default CdA for TT bars is 0.2914.
I’m on 0.2802 average.
The Cube TT bike would get that down to 0.26675
So, all other things being equal.
214.6W output over the Kona Course
£400 PX Exocet II
(EDIT - I bought some wheel for £225 as well)
5hrs 27mins 57secs
£8,999 Cube TT bike
5hrs 24mins 28secs
So a 2:31 saving.
She’s already got them though 
So are you pulling the trigger on the Cube then? I mean, LCB rides one…
I’m sure you can go under 10 hours before you hit 50, I think that the Trek is up to the job… I see you on Zwift, quietly working away, getting seriously quick.
Empfield thinks he’s the Jeff Bezos of Triathlon looking the the Internet profile he’s carved for himself. Sorry, I mean curated.
Tbh I’m not bothered anymore Matt. It’s just a number, and 45 seconds is neither here nor there over 10 hours!
IT IS THOUGH!!!
Deffo not buying a new TT bike.
Just shows that £9k doesn’t really buy you a massive difference.
I’ve not even got a disc wheel or disc cover yet.
Position is DIALLED
drivetrain is waxed
Vittoria Corsa tyres
Everything is how I like it 
I was looking at those fancy pants aero brakes from TriRig - holy crap they’re dear!!!
I’m now 151 posts into a thread entirely about LCB, and I still don’t have a clue who they are.
Not important tbh Jim.
Just popped over and gently poked the Bear.
ETA - just managed to politely pick him up on his supposedly tip-top industry knowledge too 
sigh
now i’ve got to go back over. @Matthew_Spooner already got told off for being mean!
I’ve just read that. Brilliant
No no no.
7-8 years ago is a decade you understand?
They’re American.
They have the highest disposable income on earth with a market for 15-20 million bikes.
All of them will be Cubes soon.
Get on board!
I’m just waiting for the CUBE brand to drop into the ST site partners (Profile (LCBs aerobars) and Schwalbe (tyres) already are)
I know - look at the width of me though, I could have 2 drafters side by side!
It was a draft legal tri and the only bike I had that was legal!
I remember when the Brownlees switched to Boardman, the Seppos couldn’t get onto it fast enough. 
Yeah be been looking on eBay for them for while. I figure you only need a front.
They do come up every now and then. Around 100 or so. Seems a bit much for a small saving
