Pro Cycling Live - will contain spoilers

I’m sure IPT bought Froome just for the UCI points to level up to world tour.

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Very expensive way to do that! Say what you like about Froome’s cycling but his contract deal making is on point!

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Visits to the NHS prostate cancer page rose by 672% after Chris Hoy recent announcement. 14,478 visits to the symptoms page in 48hours after, compared to 1,876 in the 48 hours before.

Some might just be curious what he might go through, but if him speaking out helps people get checked early then :+1:

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I gather it’s a simple blood test now but now sure how accurate it is or if there’s routine screening above a certain age, I haven’t been called if there is, no obvious symptoms that aren’t age related but my father had it so should try and get checked before long really.

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Yeah, I think it’s a simple test, but you are supposed to abstain from cycling for a week or two before because it can result in a false positive :man_shrugging:

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Yes it’s above a certain age, hence Chris Hoy only being diagnosed at stage 4. The challenge is whether high risk groups should be screened younger - I think they should be. Cancer treatment is all about early diagnosis. Yes, it costs money to test but it costs a hell of a lot more to treat late stage cancer!

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Yes, a simple blood test shouldn’t be that expensive and cheaper than treatment.

Is that from being seated on the bike? Or exercise in general?

I think it’s from being seated on the bike :man_shrugging:

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Don’t know of a better thread to redirect to, so mods feel free to move if off tangent

Prostate cancer screening has always been controversial, and there is no screening programme in the UK like there is for breast/colon etc. what @awildt is probably referring to is that men can ask their GP for screening, as a kind halfway solution towards it

Cost effectiveness comes into it, but is only part of the reason. It’s also that the blood test isn’t as specific as you’d want. It will come back high for any number of known and unknown reasons which might not suggest disease. So if every man over say 50 had the blood test, and then X% went on to have invasive tests (eg prostate biopsy) and then Y% end up with incontinence/impotence as a result of the biopsy (which is a relatively high risk number) it’s always been decided that more people would come to harm then be helped.

Incidentally there’s some that say the same is true for breast cancer screening, especially when combined with psychological harm of people being told they have a lump, days off work for investigations etc. but the lobbying on breast cancer is very strong (and well intentioned, I’m not criticising it, but good intentions can have misintended consequences. I don’t know who’s right :person_shrugging:)

Then as well as a good test, you also need the right disease to be suitable for cost effective nationwide screening.

Screening programmes generally don’t pick up the aggressive cases on a population level, because they’re more likely to be negative at one test, and then advance so far before the next screening test they’ve already caused too much harm. They’re either found by symptoms, or soo far gone when they’re found they don’t affect outcome.

Contrary to that, many other conditions (some prostate cancers being a common example) might be detected earlier through screening, but be so indolent and slow growing that finding it a year earlier also makes little difference overall to life survival or symptoms.

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Thanks :+1: I knew there was at least one where screening accuracy was hit and miss and generated a lot of FP’s but thought the blood test here had improved things, you know better of course.

I do actually know someone with it and as you say luckily for him it’s very slow and last time I saw him they weren’t in a rush to start treatment.

Guess we need to make the most of our healthy days :+1:

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So Cav won his last race in Singapore.

Do you think the other riders let him win?
:roll_eyes:

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I actually thought the Girmai - Roglic - Cavendish - Philipson finish the other day in Saitama was even more unbelievable… but yes, these far east crits are telling a story…

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Yes.

It is a known fact / tradition, they are staged races. Its not even a real question. :grinning:

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Funny on the news that its a fairy tail. MC wins his last race.

Its nice and all that but a tradition, not a real competition. Still have to ride hard mind you.

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I saw Cav racing in one of the Revolution track meets in Manchester just after he won the road world championships. He was racing in a rainbow jersey even though he wasn’t a reigning world champion on the track :roll_eyes:.

The format of the evening was that the pro riders were assigned to teams and they did a series of races over the night to determine the winning team on the night and the leading team for the series.

Cav hadn’t really featured in any of the races. The last race of the evening was a scratch race. There was a small group of riders out in front and it looked like the win was going to come from them. Then two of the overseas riders, who were quite big names on the 6-day circuit at the time, started pulling on the front of the bunch to pull back the break. Once the gap was closed, they perfectly lead Cav out for the win. All of this despite the fact that they were supposed to be on different teams :roll_eyes:

I made a comment to Mrs W about how much Cav was paying them to help him win and the bloke sitting next to me (resplendent in a Cav t-shirt) wouldn’t have it that Cav’s win was down to anything but his own brilliance - I thought he was going to call me outside for a fight to defend Cav’s honour :rofl:

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Straight from the diaries of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle :joy:

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Best for both parties.

Wonder if Ineos will spend their extra salary budget?

They don’t seem to have signed anyone of note in years.

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I see Remco has ridden into a post office van door and broken himself again.

I guess at least he’s got a while to recover :roll_eyes:

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