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Is there a consensus on when you should put strength training into a routine?
Is it best before or after a ânormalâ (run bike whatever) session?
Should you add it to harder days (intervals, tempo) or easier longer days? - I can see arguments for both, too much stress if added on harder days but equally overloads âeasierâ days.
I find the extra fatigue (predominantly muscle soreness but also general fatigue in other sessions) very noticeable, even with âeasyâ conditioning work.
If youâre lifting heavy or not, if your primary goal in training is increasing strength or not.
Your average triathlete who is doing body weight exercises like lunges etc I donât think it matters too much, but Iâd do these first in the day leave 4h before a quality SBR session.
When youâre lifting heavy (like it feels really hard) Iâd leave a day gap before a quality long run or bike, and not lift on key workout days.
But if youâre in off season or winter, or lockdown I suppose, and only doing maintenance/moderate level SBR then I would do those first in the day and lift last for strength gains.
The trainerroad guys advocate strength training for cyclists / triathletes quite regularly on their podcasts. Theyâve always said to keep your rest days as rest days.
From a running perspective, Iâve only once lifted in the morning and then run later in the day. It was a disaster.
If strength training is supplementing your key SBR training, then it should come afterwards from what I have read ⌠so that your key sessions are not compromised by latent fatigue / muscle stress or damage
This is what I have read. Think it was Joe Friel. For a triathlete strength training is not a primary goal, its an additional thing and so you need to focus it around your key SBR sessions.
So if you are training 2x day, strength training should come after. But you also need to think about the next day. If you have a long run or tough interval session you dont want to be smashing your legs with squats the night before.
I always used to do strength in the evening and then a swim or easy bike the next day.
Also periodisation is important. In winter you can hit the weights harder but as race day nears should dial it back. With the rest of this year basically being one massive long off season now is a good time to hit the weights I think
The other thing to keep in mind is just consistency, and that getting it done at some point is better than not at all. I agree with the above in terms of ideal timing, but itâs also easy to fall into a trap where lifestyle makes it difficult to have that right break between sessions, or do them in the right order.
Difficult logistics just leads to missed sessions down the line or compromise elsewhere in recovery, work or family time etc.
âDonât let perfection be the enemy of productivityâ to channel @Jorgan love of a mantra.
It might have already been covered in this thread but the search didnât pull anything up. Do people log a TSS for strength training? If so, how do you calculate it?
Normally I wouldnât be too bothered with tracking it but now Iâve replaced my swims with strength sessions Iâm doing atleast 3 a week.
The problem I have with his approach is you are scoring a session based on what you would normally do. Which might work for some. But when I am lifting I am aiming for progressive overload each session. So trying to assign a TSS is never going to work if you are doing that because you are always lifting more than you did last time.
He does say that even if you do log TSS for strength you shouldnât include it in your combined PMC.
The other way you can do it is to wear a HRM and record the session as âCardioâ on the Garmin. That will give you a hrTSS score based on your Threshold heart rate. That is probably pretty accurate. If you are lifting heavy you probably will see significant portion of time in Z2-3.
I decided to use RPE so 30mins of weights not to taxing is a 4 (24TSS), feeling heavy a 6 (32TSS), feels near my limit 8(41TSS), maxed out/failures 10(50TSS).
As long as youâre consistent in the numbers you use you can use any number really.
And I donât do a combined TSS score because thatâs just convenience over relevance.
But it does allow me to track when Iâm putting a lot into each sport, I also add taxing non-sport like 4hrs digging holes in the garden, and stressful life events because I think itâs relevant to my training and wellbeing.